Key Post Step by step guide to applying for UK State Pension
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Hi .
I received a confirmation letter from HMRC for my wife saying she had 8 qualifying years up to 2023.....For voluntary shortfalls she has class 2 and class 3 tax years...6 years are class 3 ..11 years are class 2
I've just paid for the cheaper class 2 initially...
Question is can I pay the class 3 years at a later stage
I received a confirmation letter from HMRC for my wife saying she had 8 qualifying years up to 2023.....For voluntary shortfalls she has class 2 and class 3 tax years...6 years are class 3 ..11 years are class 2
I've just paid for the cheaper class 2 initially...
Question is can I pay the class 3 years at a later stage
Yes. Keep an eye on the payment dates.
Hi,
For info. I completed tonight the online application to pay additional contributions (Link: form CF8 )and received confirmation of receipt with advisory note that HRMC will write in due course to confirm if application approved. A separate link to guidance on time frame for response advises that I should expect response by 4 September 2025. No mention of submitting by post.
As I knew my end date of employment in UK, but not the exact start day of my subsequent job in Ireland, I just put in a random date a few weeks after leaving UK and similarly for my start date for my later of two employments in Ireland.
However, I just saw online advice that if there's any break at all in employment dates it could mean being Charged Class 3 rates rather than Class 2.
I'll contact my employers in Ireland to confirm exact start dates of employment. Is there any means to update information once application already submitted? Is a break of a few weeks between employment dates likely to impact determination re. Class 2 v. Class 3?
Many thanks all for this very useful thread.
For info. I completed tonight the online application to pay additional contributions (Link: form CF8 )and received confirmation of receipt with advisory note that HRMC will write in due course to confirm if application approved. A separate link to guidance on time frame for response advises that I should expect response by 4 September 2025. No mention of submitting by post.
As I knew my end date of employment in UK, but not the exact start day of my subsequent job in Ireland, I just put in a random date a few weeks after leaving UK and similarly for my start date for my later of two employments in Ireland.
However, I just saw online advice that if there's any break at all in employment dates it could mean being Charged Class 3 rates rather than Class 2.
I'll contact my employers in Ireland to confirm exact start dates of employment. Is there any means to update information once application already submitted? Is a break of a few weeks between employment dates likely to impact determination re. Class 2 v. Class 3?
Many thanks all for this very useful thread.
Wait till you get a response back & put in an appeal if necessary.
The important thing is that you are in the system, so just sit & wait for now.
Hillwalker123
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I am completing this with my wife.
We have just got her NI number.
we have printed the CF83 form and are completing it. Will post it tomorrow.
I have 2 questions:
1. When we tried to verify identity online using biometric passport, it failed at last step (it did read the chip and accepted the photo etc). I understand this is because passport has married name and NI number linked to maiden name. Anyone know how we can rectify this?
2. Should we send marriage cert/copy passport etc with CF83 form and a cover letter, or just send the form?
Thank you for advice
We have just got her NI number.
we have printed the CF83 form and are completing it. Will post it tomorrow.
I have 2 questions:
1. When we tried to verify identity online using biometric passport, it failed at last step (it did read the chip and accepted the photo etc). I understand this is because passport has married name and NI number linked to maiden name. Anyone know how we can rectify this?
2. Should we send marriage cert/copy passport etc with CF83 form and a cover letter, or just send the form?
Thank you for advice
newuser1234
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Hi all,
This is a very useful forum, I’ve learned a lot but have a few questions please.
I worked in the UK from Sept 2002 to Aug 2004 and then came back to Ireland where I have worked since. I was self employed for the first year, and then self employed for 4 years and have been PAYE since then. I filled out the form to determine if I was eligible and it came back to say that I had 8 years of eligible contributions (?) and then listed all the gaps. They are all class 3.
I did work across 3 calendar years and then worked straight away when I came back home so wondering if that qualifies me for Class 2? I must submit the relevant form first and understand that I will be contacted after to be advised of what I must pay but was just wondering if anyone else with a similar work profile was told Class 2? I think otherwise it would mean paying €40k by the time I reach 67 and hoping I would live at least 4 years to get it back
Also, since I am looking to back pay and continue to pay contributions, is the answer to the first question on the form ‘none’?
Thanks in advance!
This is a very useful forum, I’ve learned a lot but have a few questions please.
I worked in the UK from Sept 2002 to Aug 2004 and then came back to Ireland where I have worked since. I was self employed for the first year, and then self employed for 4 years and have been PAYE since then. I filled out the form to determine if I was eligible and it came back to say that I had 8 years of eligible contributions (?) and then listed all the gaps. They are all class 3.
I did work across 3 calendar years and then worked straight away when I came back home so wondering if that qualifies me for Class 2? I must submit the relevant form first and understand that I will be contacted after to be advised of what I must pay but was just wondering if anyone else with a similar work profile was told Class 2? I think otherwise it would mean paying €40k by the time I reach 67 and hoping I would live at least 4 years to get it back
Also, since I am looking to back pay and continue to pay contributions, is the answer to the first question on the form ‘none’?
Thanks in advance!
Have you completed and sent in the CF83 form?
No matter how many times you say it, it seems that some people don't take heed...
newuser1234
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No, not yet.
That form I referenced was to determine if I was eligible, I did the gov ID checks and then inputted my national insurance number and was told I was eligible. It listed all the gaps years then too.
That form I referenced was to determine if I was eligible, I did the gov ID checks and then inputted my national insurance number and was told I was eligible. It listed all the gaps years then too.
So do that first and do it today, you are running out of time.
newuser1234
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Ok, thanks.
Hillwalker123
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Thanks a million, all done
A family member filled in the CF83 last year and was told they will have to pay Class 3 contributions for the 18 back years. They put the decision on the long finger but would like to pay the figure now. Have they only until the 5th April to find the money and make the payment or can they pay after the 5th April as the CF83 has already been processed? Thanks folks.
Yes, but check the payment dates on the letter they were sent. There are penalties for late payment.