I'm surprised it's this low...I would have thought plug-in hybrids would be the current sweet spot for those in urban areas with range anxiety
Buying a diesel car nowadays
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I have a 4 year old Hyundai Kona. 95,000 kilometres. Full charge is still giving approx 450km like it did 4 years ago.
I bought a new diesel car years ago which I am planning to keep for another 5 years. Hopefully we settle the debate by than.
Personally, I put Green & Vegan in same category as novelty notions with some benefits but even bigger marketing spin around it. The biggest element in carbon footprint is production of new car. If EV encourages people to dump cars just because they are diesel and buy a new one, it's hardly beneficial for the environment. Therefore the best thing anyone could do is not to waste food and buy car every few years just because they can afford.
Personally, I put Green & Vegan in same category as novelty notions with some benefits but even bigger marketing spin around it. The biggest element in carbon footprint is production of new car. If EV encourages people to dump cars just because they are diesel and buy a new one, it's hardly beneficial for the environment. Therefore the best thing anyone could do is not to waste food and buy car every few years just because they can afford.
I was under the impression that particular myth has long been dispelled: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths#Myth2
Unless your driving your car very little miles every year - an EV is much better from an emissions standpoint.
This myth buster compares production + lifetime carbon footprint of EV versus ICE car. While agreeing to the benefits of EV, I am pointing to marketing spin (including articles like this) that is encouraging everyone to sell thier existing diesel/ petrol cars and buy a new EV. There is plenty of evidence that the best way to save environment is to use your car longer (petrol, diesel or EV) than buying a new one every few years. I see a lot of EV cars in estate which have replaced the 3-4 old cars because they want to reduce thier carbob footprint.
https://studyfinds.org/keeping-old-cars-help-environment-more-than-new-electric-cars/
Manufacturing a car creates as much carbon as driving it
Making a new car creates as much carbon pollution as driving it, so it's often bettrer to keep your old banger on the road than to upgrade to a greener model
www.theguardian.com
Ireland stands second (after Austria) with shortest life span of car with average age of 8.6 years, while EU average is 11.8. The production of a new medium size car adds 17tons of CO2 to environment which is equivalent to three years worth of electricity and gas at average home. In my opinion, for an average punter, the best way to save environment is to keep existing car longer. I don't see any awareness campaign from media, mythbusters or government on encouraging it. On contrary, they are encouraging to buy new EV cars to get more tax.
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I think this is a misrepresentation of the situation.
According to cartell.ie
This suggests to me that the lifetime of an average Irish car is double the average age, because to arrive at an average age of around 9 years, every brand new car will need to be matched by an old car circa 18 years old. So the average lifetime will be around 18 years.
If there are actually a lot of 9 year old cars being scrapped, let me know and I'll buy one of them.
Nice to know I am above average for once
Tesla's share price largely reflected hype over substance. It made little sense that what was effectively a low volume startup was worth more than most of the rest of the market combined.
When someone trading in a 3-year old car for an EV, that 3-year old car does not get scrapped.
FYI, this is the average age of all cars still on the road that are flagged as imports rather than the age they were at import.
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Yes, it doesn't but overall if the whole market is skewed towards getting rid of thier car earlier (1st hand, 2nd hand and so on) that would ultimately lead to cars getting to scrappage earlier. Sources for average age of cars on the road in EU
https://www.aut.fi/en/statistics/in...e_age_of_passenger_cars_in_european_countries
https://www.statista.com/statistics/974713/passenger-car-average-age-europe/
Hyundai have stopped selling petrol/diesel/hybrid and plug-in-hybrids in Norway.
As a single car household, we went with the petrol/hybrid two years ago. For all the analysis we did, it would have been the best of both worlds. In fact, its the worst of both worlds. Definitely regret not getting the EV. In the market for a second car now and will likely go for an older leaf/ioniq.
Congrats - mind me asking what car you bought, and what influenced the decision, regarding make?
Why, what's the issue with the hybrid? As things stand, I think I'd be opting for a petrol-battery hybrid, were I in the market, tomorrow.
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Poor electric range and all the downsides / maintenance of owning an ice car , they are a gimmick really.
Add in also a lot of extra complex equipment and electronics to control switching between electric and petrol drive. I would not have confidence in a mechanic being able to diganose and repair this type of equipment in an efficient and economical manner.
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I was talking to someone in the tyre business over Christmas and he mentioned that electric vehicle tyres are quite expensive in comparison to ICE tyres. For those who have electric vehicles did you see an increase in the price for new tyre's when replacing them.
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