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Thank you so much Jacek
Hi, Kalila,
I am about to build my house, and am interested in contacting your scource. Can you post it please?
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High uv factor, sound proof and argon filed glass. Total cost 3,800.00.
I contacted a courier who delivers to Poland but usually comes back with only a few parcels. My windows are being collected from the factory and delivered to my door in a boxed truck, for 800 euro.
Job done.
Donnachain, I just had my windows fitted from Austria. They are fantastic quality and half the price of some manufacturers in Ireland. Check out http://www.homepro.at/. Andreas is the contact there and he is in Ireland quite regularly and will discuss options with you. He is super efficient as are they guys who come to fit them. If you have any problems they fix them straight away no questions asked. Couldnt recommend them enough. I mentioned them on this site before but only had the windows fitted recently and am even more impressesd.
uPVC has a life of 10 to 15 years then starts to deteriorate the only way to get it back to complete insulation efficiency and colour is to take it out and replace it completely.
Sorry I should have said uPVC lasts forever but the seals, hinges, handles sliding mechanisms won't if it was wood you'd be able to just replace the bits but not with uPVC.
I have 2 uPVC windows in my flat they are about 15 years old the seals have deteriorated, I have hunted the length of Ireland trying to find new seals for them the only answer I've been given by window people is you've got to replace the windows entirely, apparently seal design has changed over time, i.e. new ones won't fit.
If you put a new piece of white uPVC beside your old white uPVC windows you'll see the difference between them easily. If you don't want tatty, yellowish looking frames you'll have to put new windows in because you can't paint uPVC and if you could that would defeat the whole purpose of having them in and would the first place.
As for the few problems that your in-laws are having with their uPVC windows I can guarantee those problems will escalate. Within a few years they'll be putting in new windows because problems with windows always keep coming, at least with wood you can fix them easily but you can't do anything with uPVC
.....except put new ones in....
Yours
I suggest you pull off your blinkers: your wooden windows also have hinges, seals and associated hardware - and probably from the same factory the uPVC guys use......if it fails on uPVC systems, it'll fail on your wooden one too.........the window frame has nothing to do with it.
And we already know that 10's of 1000's of houses in Ireland have pulled out their timber, and put in alternatives already. It's extremely unlikely they'll ever have to do it again.
If wood framed windows were such a success, neither uPVC nor Alu - would ever have got off the ground. They did so because wooden framed windows need maintenance - and lots of it. In this climate, with a lot of wind-driven rain, they need even more maintenance, and so long as you're happy with doing that, that's fine, but don't try and kid anyone that it's necessarily better.
And we already know that 10's of 1000's of houses in Ireland have pulled out their timber, and put in alternatives already. It's extremely unlikely they'll ever have to do it again.
Some of the very first windows produced in Germany in the 50's are still in use.
You can't have it both ways either they last or they don't.
Regarding the oil situation your arguement is flawed if you don't have oil then you can't make uPVC windows so timber is the next oblivious choice since we can grow it here.
I read some of your previous posts on different threads and I see you are in the building game making houses of sorts.
I'd just bet you mainly use uPVC windows.
Computerman the point I try to make in this thread is that we should not be using uPVC even using aluminium is better that uPVC, but wood for preference
Galwaytt is quite correct I do have a vested interest, I don't want to leave our future generations with a toxic legacy.
.........There was a time when homegrown timber was good enough for all the woodwork around the house and not just in the fire place.........Why can't we grow it again? ........
Galwaytt's......... I'm I get the impression he does pre-fab houses but this was only after a brief glance through his previous posts so I could be wrong and probably am. The only person who could put me wise to that would be Galwaytt themselves.