My understanding is that the expected usage for a single occupancy household is 66,000 and increasing by 21,000 for each additional person; and as the government don't want to be seen to be charging children for water their free allowance (now 21,000 down from 38,000) is supposed to cover the average usage attributable to a child.Irish Water reduces free allowance for children . . Allocation of 38,000 litres announcedby Government cut to 21,000 litres . .
Very good post. Especialy for a first and only post, perchance someone in Irish water. I suspected the same myself. Irish Water are trying to 'encourage' landlords to register or get their tenants to register.The relevant legislation creates a rebuttable presumption that the owner and occupier of a dwelling are one and the same. However, the legislation does NOT create a secondary liability on the part of an owner to discharge any water charges that are unpaid by the occupier of that dwelling. Irish Water are entitled to access details from the PRTB so there is no legislative basis for any suggestion that the owner of a property that is subject to a registered tenancy would ever be liable for water charges relating to that property.
I totally disagree that they can come after me as non occupier until I see a legal basis for this. So far I've been only able to clarify this,A second hand quote from a call center operative is not official policy.
That's half the problem with a lot of the "uproar" about the water charges - people hear things and see things in papers or on facebook and believe them to be true.
ANyway - that quote could be justas easily referring to the tenant "dodging the bill" by not registering in the first place.
Basically if nobody declares themselves as occupants and Irish Water know who the owner is what else can they do except go after the owner for water charges?
Complete the form with your tenant's details and check the 'tenant' box on the form - you only need 1 PPS number and you should have this already when you registered the tenancy with the PRTB.I am a landlord. I received the Irish Water pack to my home address today in respect of the rental property.
If I fill out my own details as a landlord, it's possible I may become liable for water charges if the tenant doesn't pay. This is not something I'm prepared to do. All other utilities are paid for by my tenant with no liability on me if they default on payments (bill follows the tenant etc).
So, my other option is to get the tenant to fill out their PPS no etc in my presence and I post the return letter back to Irish Water? How will I know if the information supplied is correct? If it's not, will they still chase me as the landlord?
There are too many variables in this whole sorry mess.
What are other landlords planning on doing in this above scenario?
Hi Sahd, I'm not sure which form you're referring to - the only one I received was the actual registration form from Irish Water with my name on it and the addresses of my rental properties.Maybe they would have sent forms to the tenants once you returned your form confirming your properties ?
Didn't realise that either, I've no form of any description yet. Great news, no signature required, sure it's easy peasy for me to fill out the form for the tenants so.To be honest with you, I don't really care what they say. There's no signature required and I have completed and sent off the forms.