Warning to landlords considering HAP tenants

RETIRED2017

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You are 100% correct Gordon. When the "happers" turn nasty Bronte will change her tune
I am a landlord myself the biggest problem is with the Council requirements rather than tenants at least that is the feedback I get from landlords when HAP gets talked about,


Landlords who do not bother vetting tenants correctly is a bigger problem, a large deposit and both tenant and landlord understanding why is is required and it will be given back at end of tenancy ,

As a landlord myself I have seen more landlords messing tenants around at the end of tenancy than tenants messing landlords around when it comes to returning deposit,
 
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Gordon Gekko

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That’s all fine and dandy, once nobody disputes the argument that, in aggregate, people on social welfare are generally more troublesome.
 

Zenith63

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There is nothing outrageous here, if your tenant stops paying his portion of the rent to the city council then HAP stops paying. It's the very same as if a normal tenant stopped paying. No difference.
The difference is the deposit. The incentive for a regular tenant to continue paying rent is to get their deposit back, that simply does not exist for a HAP tenant. Let’s at least keep this debate grounded in fact, even if we cannot seem to keep it grounded in civility.

Except the State is, on the one hand, compelling landlords to take in deadbeats via HAP
Having met a good number of HAP tenants as a landlord, not a single one of them came across as deadbeats. I met lots of young people from difficult family situations who were working hard often supporting a young child or two. Personally I think HAP is very broken, it’s ridiculous the government paying rent for high-end properties and further overheating a market, but I think you should remember these are real people and calling them deadbeats is rather unfair and ignorant.
 

Bronte

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The difference is the deposit. The incentive for a regular tenant to continue paying rent is to get their deposit back, that simply does not exist for a HAP tenant. Let’s at least keep this debate grounded in fact, even if we cannot seem to keep it grounded in civility.

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What are you saying here? All my HAP tenant's paid me a deposit.
 

Bronte

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You are 100% correct Gordon. When the "happers" turn nasty Bronte will change her tune
Ok, more than two decades says you're wrong. I already has one social welfare tenant try it on with me, in the High Court for Personal injuries, paid her the deposit back to get rid of her. Most of my current HAP tenant's are in dire straights. I feel sorry for them even thought many of them are not as clean a tenant as the Poles etc were.
 

Zenith63

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What are you saying here? All my HAP tenant's paid me a deposit.
My understanding was that you get two month's rent up-front form the LA and one of those months is classed as the deposit. Are you saying you ask for a 3rd month rent up-front, paid by the tenant? As I say, met a lot of HAP tenants and spoke to HAP themselves as I was open to it, this was certainly not how it was conveyed to me.
 

robert 200

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The bottom line is - if you were advising your daughter or son about tenants , my advice would be to steer clear of all social welfare and especially HAP tenants until the government
decide to play it fair with landlords and seriously revise the fairness of the RTB .
 
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