Paul O Mahoney
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Perhaps, but the mutation this time appears different as its being blamed either rightly or wrongly on the high levels of transmission in the greater London area and Kent.This is just another strain. The Italian strain was most prevalent in Ireland during the spring. The Spanish strain has been the most common in Europe during the second wave.
Mutations are normal. In the short term there’s nothing to worry about.
When I told herself this morning she asked me what did they exactly say , I couldn't answer so forwarded the bbc link above.Could it cause complication for the vaccines that are based on attenuated strain of virus rather than mRNA ones?
e.g. annual flu vaccine needs to include multiple strains
For anyone wishing to take this vaccine, God kiss you good luck.
Thats a brave statement given that those vaccines are brand new and are only in circulation since last week..From what I understand, yes.
The mRNA vaccines will only be minorly (opposite of “bigly”) affected.
No the scientific people in the UK are looking feverishly @ the new strains genetic make up at Porton Down, as they did in January.The above assumption is according to a U.K. Cabinet minister though, not to any scientist or medical expert.
This is good news, of course again Moderna doesn't have its own manufacturing facilities so it will be manufactured by 3rd parties, however they did start sourcing these in the summer and have signed contracts.Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine is 94 percent effective at preventing illness and appears to protect against infection as well, according to documents released Tuesday morning ahead of a meeting of advisors to the Food and Drug Administration, scheduled for Thursday...
There were approximately 2/3 fewer swabs that were positive in the vaccine group as compared to the placebo group at the pre-dose 2 timepoint, suggesting that some asymptomatic infections start to be prevented after the first dose.
This is significant as it would mean vaccinated people would not spread the disease.
Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee December 17, 2020 Meeting Briefing Document Addendum- Sponsor (fda.gov)
I admire his optimistic view too.Not my view. Kingsley Mills, stated it this morning. One of the advantages of the mRNA vaccines. Even if the existing Pfizer or Moderna vaccines don’t work against the new London strain, only little modification will be required and no Stage Three testing.
Agreed there is evidence of lung scaring, chronic fatigue, and its thought that the virus itself might and I stress might be able to reside in the bowel.To return to the topic of this thread...
My concern with the safety of the new vaccine(s) would be “long-Covid equivalent” side-effects.
To elaborate...
IIRC it wasn’t until about April this year we started hearing about long-Covid (and maybe a few months later before that became the commonly used term).
Many people contracted Covid, were symptomatic, recovered, and a few months later had ongoing Covid-related issues.
Covid is regarded as a respiratory infection, but long-Covid may affect any of a number of different organs.
It took the experts by surprise.
And long-Covid still seems to be a mystery and little is know about it.
Many vaccines give mild, short-lived, side effects. My fear is that a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine may give, as I termed it earlier, “long-Covid equivalent” side effects.
There might be an hour or two of observation of recipient. I don't know if that happens but weren't most tests carried out outdoors and would it be possible to ensure the vaccine is kept safe.Regarding the roll-out of the vaccines....the Covid test centers seem to have worked well for people...could these be used? You get your appointment as per the Covid test and away you go..
Didn't hear that must be the States? I know a couple of Pfizers EU plants are producing a lot more "medium" than normal and are 24hr ops now, one country loves it, other hates it used, to 35 hr weeks the latter.......also heard that there is problem getting ingredients in sufficient quantity to manufacture vaccine
Just to add to this , its now estimated that as much as 200,000 people in the UK have long covid.The BBC reported this morning on a report issued that now seems to indicate that as much as 1 in 10 people who were hospitalised with covid are now suffering or have suffered " Long Covid " and the effects are beyond what was thought initially.
The TV report although brief also mentioned that long covid has affected all ages including the young. The recommendations are that people discharged from hospital should now be asked back for checkups after 6 weeks.
While the vaccine will probably help in preventing death and assist in recovery time its reasonable to assume that Covid-19 will probably be now another "illness" that will place further issues on already stretched health care systems and of course the financial status of countries
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