Returning cans and plastic bottles

Leo said:
Are you sure it's cardboard and not compostible fibre board? Cardboard is porous so a liner made of plastic or some other material would be required, hence pizza boxes generally being diverted to composting or incineration.
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We get noodles and rice in cardboard with the inside lined with a shiny coat of something to seal it. Most other dishes are in either the aluminium or plastic containers. I wash and reuse the plastic ones but have quite a few surplus ones now. Handy for freezing things.
 
JoeRoberts said:
Where is the data to be seen though and how valid is it.
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Lots of studies published on the matter, it's easy enough to weed out the vested interest spin. The one I linked earlier for example includes details of the full life cycle impact, including the energy & pollution involved in production, transportation. and recycling. Have a read and then convince me burning stuff comes close to being better overall.
 
Leo said:
Are you sure it's cardboard and not compostible fibre board? Cardboard is porous so a liner made of plastic or some other material would be required, hence pizza boxes generally being diverted to composting or incineration.
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Gosh, can you put pizza boxes in the brown compostable bin? I did not know that. I have been putting them in the general rubbish black bin as they are contaminated with food so can’t recycle them.
 
re: pizza boxes - they can go in the green bin if they're not too soiled or greasy:
mywaste.ie

Pizza boxes - MyWaste

What? This is a paper or card Where? This should be placed in the household recycling bin. If […]
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I was interested to read this Guardian article on takeaway packaging - "compostable" items are often the worst option (except for cardboard and paper).
 
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This is becoming a joke.

I ordered a sports drink online from an Irish Company and paid less money including shipping that I would have paid in Store (nearly 20% less) and no deposit charged.

To my surprise the shipment came from Lithuania and all 48 cans have the re-deposit logo, so now I got another 7.20 discount.

Yes, sure ship it from Lithuania but make sure I recycle the can to safe the world!
 
DublinTexas said:
This is becoming a joke.

I ordered a sports drink online from an Irish Company and paid less money including shipping that I would have paid in Store (nearly 20% less) and no deposit charged.

To my surprise the shipment came from Lithuania and all 48 cans have the re-deposit logo, so now I got another 7.20 discount.

Yes, sure ship it from Lithuania but make sure I recycle the can to safe the world!
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Ddi you try at a return machineyet.....?...if it works then just shows you how expense the Store (is that a specific shop ) is.

interesting comparision of 97% recycling levels https://yle.fi/a/74-20094807
 
Fortune said:
I only ever see paper and compostable cardboard from takeaways.
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We got 2 takeaways recently. The Indian came in tinfoil boxes with cardboard tops, they gave us poppadoms and the sause was in those white polystyrene things. The naan bread and poppadoms were in those heavy paper bags.

The Chinese was in plastic boxes.
 
Customers warned bin charges to rise as bottle return scheme hits waste firm profits

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Customers warned bin charges to rise as bottle return scheme hits waste firm profits

Waste collection companies have warned they may increase prices for recycling bin collections to make up for the loss of plastic bottles and drinks cans to the Deposit Return Scheme (DRS).
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Not only is this a bit of a chore but now it's actually going to cost me money.....that's pretty annoying.
 
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I saw a bin truck with the Return branding on, it looks like it is purely for the collection from the reverse vending machine locations.

Is it really the case that even more gas-guzzling highly polluting vehicles are required for this environment improvement initiative ??
 
All I can say that the system works for me as intended: I am actively avoiding to buy cans (or bottles) that I need to bring to some vending machine to get my money back. Way too much hassle and annoyance. I'll manage without that can of coke. Now only buy beer in glass bottles (which I have to bring to the glass bottle bank alright - but that's inevitable anyways).
 
It doesn't seem to me that there was proper consultation with all stakeholders let alone clear thinking on unintended consequences.
 
Knuttell said:
It doesn't seem to me that there was proper consultation with all stakeholders let alone clear thinking on unintended consequences.
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There was one of those sham public "consultations" run, to come to a pre-ordained decision, where only feedback from approved sources is listened to. It was obvious this would be one of the impacts, it is not that the government \ minister were ignorant, they just didn't care enough to do anything about it.
 
Sooner or later when people start bringing 99% of the material back, who is going to pay for this theater? They are certainly going to look to the taxpayer to compensate the operating loos of this and the companies that are doing the bin collections are either handing the business back to local authorities or want compensation for the millions they lose.

And in the meanwhile, they just cut down multiple mature trees in my area to make room for ....... a recycling bank for plastic and glass.
 
DublinTexas said:
Sooner or later when people start bringing 99% of the material back, who is going to pay for this theater? They are certainly going to look to the taxpayer to compensate the operating loos of this and the companies that are doing the bin collections are either handing the business back to local authorities or want compensation for the millions they lose.

And in the meanwhile, they just cut down multiple mature trees in my area to make room for ....... a recycling bank for plastic and glass.
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The joys of a modern civilisation...
A recycling bank for plastic? Never heard of that one. I always wanted one in my area- it would be absolutely brilliant- I could dump all my non recyclable plastic there and save a lot of money on the bin collection.
Are you sure it is really a bank for plastic?
 
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