You have two choices 1) seek assistance from the Guards to police the route properly 2) stop using a section of road that sounds dangerous if they continue to refuse to police it properly.What I do need though is some protection from the morons who drive the narrower parts of the Enniskerry Road @100kph+ and overtake me in a dangerous and life threatening manner as I commute daily.
Will we now witness a new force of cops armed with 1.5 mtr t-squares in the middle of the roads? "Licence and insurance, please. You breached the safe passing distance by 2mm there me bucko, if I catch you again you'll be for the high-jump."
Well, you could limit narrow roads to cyclists only.
Or make them one way with a counterflow for cyclists.
Or maybe drivers just treat cyclists as they do other cars which might damage them - they keep their distance.
There are loads of solutions.
Brendan
Sorry Leper - this is the bit which the anti-cyclist brigade don't get.
A badly driven car is very dangerous which is why we have extensive laws, insurance and some enforcement of those laws.
If I carelessly crash my bicycle into a car, I will suffer more than the car driver.
If a car crashes into me on my bicycle, I will suffer more than the car driver.
That is why enforcing good laws against bad driving is more important than enforcing bad laws against cyclists.
Brendan
No, don't forget that the unenforced laws, samples of which I mention above, don't figure in the headline crime numbers the top cops and the Ministers like to brag about through Leo's SCU and other avenues. They use the sound bites and photo ops to highlight their supernatural abilities to be "proactive in solving crime".So you are arguing that because the Gardaí don't enforce some laws, we should not have them at all?
OK Guys. I give up. Let's keep up the "Motorists are dreadful road users" - "Cyclists cause little or no accidents" - "Pedestrians are always in the right" -
I think you also need to consider if a cyclists crashes into a pedestrian.
If a modern car and a bike travelling at the same speed collide with a pedestrian, the bike will certainly do more damage. Modern cars are designed to inflict as little injury as possible on pedestrians up to certain speeds. They have exterior impact absorption panels designed in. Bikes, on the other hand, are just collections of sharp lumps of metal, brake levers, spokes, handlebars, sprockets, chain, pedals which are not designed to minimise injury to pedestrians.Of course, it's not good if a cyclist crashes into a pedestrian, but the damage is not remotely as serious as when a car crashes into a pedestrian.
Applying the same rules to bicycles and cars is not justified. The damage by a bike doing something illegal is so much less.
If a modern car and a bike travelling at the same speed collide with a pedestrian, the bike will certainly do more damage.
If a modern car and a bike travelling at the same speed collide with a pedestrian, the bike will certainly do more damage.
In fairness very few motorists break the red lights when compared to cyclists and most especially pedestrians, who come across as having a divine right to do so. I cannot understand what 50 and 100 guards in garda stations do every day, they're not on the beat, you hardly ever see them, squad cars are in places where they shouldn't be????? Laws are on the books, why aren't they enforced? It beats Banagher, as Pat Rabbitte once said. I know people give out about speeding vans with cameras, but they're brilliant and i'd love if more were put out there. Same with guards or is being on the beat and enforcing simple laws beneath the force now?
I have being following this tread along with watching how people behave walking cycling and driving since a very good childhood friend got killed cycling ;Hi mathepac then
That is very interesting.
I will confirm it the next time that I am cycling on the footpath at 80kph and crash into someone.
Brendan
The only way to change behaviour is for it to have serious adverse consequences for the transgressor and right now as we agree there are no adverse consequences, thus the bad behaviour continues or escalates. Bring back Guards on the streets or use monitored cameras.Until the motorists, cyclists, pedestrians change the way they use the roads the carnage will continue.
If you feel your selective quote represents the thrust of my post then go for it!I will confirm it the next time that I am cycling on the footpath at 80kph and crash into someone.
You do that, then read my post again when you understand the notions of kinetic energy including elastic and inelastic collisions and energy transformation.I'm really going to have to go back to school and look again at stuff if the weight of a modern car has no effect on the impact on a pedestrian.
If you feel your selective quote represents the thrust of my post then go for it!
so 7.5 kph on average in Dublin metropolitan area, "peak hour speeds of 5.5km/h"
If a modern car and a bike travelling at the same speed collide with a pedestrian, the bike will certainly do more damage. Modern cars are designed to inflict as little injury as possible on pedestrians up to certain speeds. They have exterior impact absorption panels designed in. Bikes, on the other hand, are just collections of sharp lumps of metal, brake levers, spokes, handlebars, sprockets, chain, pedals which are not designed to minimise injury to pedestrians.
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