My media training

Starting your own business involves a lot of risk and is not restricted to the wealthy or those with a safety net. Those who take that risk often spend years not earning much income as they plough money back into the business to grow it. They should be rewarded for taking that risk and are entitled to reap the rewards for doing so.
 
Starting your own business involves a lot of risk and is not restricted to the wealthy or those with a safety net. Those who take that risk often spend years not earning much income as they plough money back into the business to grow it. They should be rewarded for taking that risk and are entitled to reap the rewards for doing so.
And sacrificed time with their families and children and had to deal with massive amounts of stress and uncertainty etc. They also provide employment to other people, often from under-privileged areas. In other words they do more to help "the poor" than the mod of smoked salmon socialists who don't actually care about poor people but just hate people who are richer than them.
 
1. What has this got to do with mortgages and home buying?
2. Is that really a meaningful title?

See, proper media training and you wouldn't have made this beginners mistake!! You got so emotional on the issue, you broke two posting guidelines and have now set yourself up for a scandal in the National Media.....
 
Correct Bronte. He didn't start the thread. But he started the issue of me requiring media training.

Brendan

Ok that wasn't obvious.
Some earlier incarnation of AAM used to leave an indication (annotation or link) indicating that a thread was actually split off from another original thread.
 
Starting your own business involves a lot of risk and is not restricted to the wealthy or those with a safety net. Those who take that risk often spend years not earning much income as they plough money back into the business to grow it. They should be rewarded for taking that risk and are entitled to reap the rewards for doing so.
Rewards? Like profits you mean?
 
Correct Bronte. He didn't start the thread. But he started the issue of me requiring media training.

Brendan
Well you've given us great insight into some of your training. Fasinating stuff. I thought your trainer had picked up on you quite well and where you were going wrong, now I know you don't seem to care if you come across badly but it defeats what you are trying to do. But maybe some people, or most people listening to Joe actually get it that you were right. They certainly did on boards.ie. You need to do training with dealing with an interviewer like Joe, handling jibs from a Hall, and members of the audience allowed to say anything they liked without being called up on it without seeming like a monster because you don't agree that people should get free money because the banks are bad people. Me I use Joe Duffy for endless entertainment. Literally a comedy show.
 
1. What has this got to do with mortgages and home buying?
2. Is that really a meaningful title?

See, proper media training and you wouldn't have made this beginners mistake!! You got so emotional on the issue, you broke two posting guidelines and have now set yourself up for a scandal in the National Media.....
Who is going to sanction him though. Maybe RTE will give him his own money show. Like a money makeover one would be a great idea.
 
Often the wealthy benefitted from private schooling, family inheritance, favourable tax breaks. The risks they take are no greater than those that someone with reduced safety nets take.
I totally disagree with you on this and agree with Stephen and Purple. It is very unlikely in an Irish context that people got wealth fom inheritances. Most people I know who are wealthy started with nothing. And I mean nothing.
 
Most people I know who are wealthy started with nothing. And I mean nothing.

Like Joe Duffy?

And let's face it, he's a risk taker. On a bad week, I'd annoy a couple of people maybe - whereas the bold Joe must easily irritate thousands of folk most days and then allows some of these emotionally charged, non-media trained folk loose on his show. Fair enough, he can always invoke the sanctuary of an add break but even still...…..;)
 
Correct Bronte. He didn't start the thread. But he started the issue of me requiring media training.

Brendan
Let's keep with the truth Brendan:- I recommended it would be of benefit to you if you got some media training. With your fairly recent interviews which I heard, I thought media training would do you the world of good. I meant nothing underhand or any innuendo whatsoever. And Like you mentioned in a previous post I never said you "made a fool" of yourself. It was you who used those words.

It doesn't bother me that BB doesn't perform to the best of his ability in the media (including on AAM). I've only being trying to help him and all I get in reply is an avalanche of his cynicism.

*I didn't set up this thread, Brendan Burgess did. Also he transferred a post of mine to set up another thread about being "devoured" on radio by not having media training.

I hope that clears up matters.
 
I think that Leper, the Father of AAM, has a good point.

It seems to me that the genesis of this thread is that Brendan is prepared to speak the unadulterated truth and to hell with the consequences. The idea being that he is courageous in presenting evidence-based, logical arguments supported by facts.

In truth, there is much to admire in this approach and, in fairness, he does have form here.

What is not to be applauded, however, is to purport to base arguments on fact and simultaneously use misinformation in an attempt to undermine the genuine opinions and observances of others. Specifically, as Leper as pointed out, Brendan has attempted to ascribe sentiments to what Leper wrote which are not actually what Leper wrote. Brendan has tried to achieve this by subtly changing Leper's comments from what they actually were (the facts) to something different.

In so doing, Brendan is changing the facts to demonstrate his abhorrence of arguments of dubious factual merit which is not really my tasse de tea!
 
Specifically, as Leper as pointed out, Brendan has attempted to ascribe sentiments to what Leper wrote which are not actually what Leper wrote. Brendan has tried to achieve this by subtly changing Leper's comments from what they actually were (the facts) to something different.

I assume you are being funny here?

In case you are not, read what Leper actually said:


And you can decide for yourself whether my summary of what Leper said as "make a fool of myself" and being "devoured" is correct.

Brendan
 
I assume you are being funny here?

In case you are not, read what Leper actually said:


And you can decide for yourself whether my summary of what Leper said as "make a fool of myself" and being "devoured" is correct.

Brendan
Brendan, with respect those are my posts and I think I gave a good reflection of the Liveline show which took place. I gave an opinion here and there too. Please read my lips:- I never said you made a fool of yourself on the show. As to being "devoured" that's what I believe will happen to the unsuspecting ill trained media punter jumping in on an entertainment radio show hence my recommendation for media training.

Furthermore, let me point out SGWidow was in no way being "funny." He/She called the situation as it is.

. . . and for the record it was you Mr Burgess and nobody else who titled the thread "Anyone going on Joe Duffy should get media training as they will be devoured by media savvy Joe" - I didn't put that title on the thread.
 
Leper is more than capable of speaking for himself. All I wish to say is that I believe that Leper has been completely genuine in his comments and that the restatement of certain things that he said represents a massaging of the facts which is subtle but has the same distorting effect as Joe taking a tactical add break or telling a poor caller to "hold on the line".

Leper - the clue to my gender is, alas, in my moniker!
 
Leper - you are a man of many rambling words. Here is what you actually said. Your own words.

With the utmost respect, and I don't mean that, I think that the summary "Brendan made a fool of himself" is a full and fair summary of your opinion.

To me, it appeared Mr Burgess was an apologist for a financial institution which failed to show up.
My advice to anybody wishing for publicity:- Don't set yourself up as a stool pigeon if you don't want to be shot at.


Media Training is the key along with the truth. Go up against a highly media trained Joe Duffy or any two-bit FM media trained radio presenter without such training and you'll find yourself to be cannon fodder in an open trench like you suggested.

your naivité regarding media presentation was a little wanting (

You're inexperienced and It's how you use the ball on which you will be judged. Before you start, be aware that you are a goal behind. You've got to make up the difference early in any interview. Scoring an own goal can be disastrous.

Where do you get slotted in? Joe allows you to participate whenever he wishes. This might or might not be after some human interest story which has nothing to do with Life Loans. Advertising pays Joe's wages (bottom line) - he must allow ads (Get over it!), but he decides when and for how long. Translation:- Joe and his team dictate who and when can contribute. (Duh!). (But it's still Joe 2 - 0 Guest). But, you're defending even before you start.

What can you do to gain an advantage? - Get Media Trained or at least Become Media Savvy. (Now you can score a goal and before the game begins). You might even be near a 1 - 1 score start.

What can you do to gain an advantage? - Get Media Trained or at least Become Media Savvy. (Now you can score a goal and before the game begins). You might even be near a 1 - 1 score start.

Again read my lips:- Joe won the contest hands down.

you bet your rootin' tootin' bottom dollar you need media training

why sell yourself short in the media when you can win most discussions and make life easier?

Neither would Eddie walk into an ambush laid for a bank.

It's the people who walk into an ambush and lack articulation to clearly express what they want to say get themselves devoured. Once again Joe Duffy is being set up as some kind of victim. (He couldn't have wished for better and on BB's forum too!). In three words:- Another Own Goal!
 
Again Brendan, with respect - I can stand over all my comments which you quoted in the previous post. However, for the umpteenth time I wish to place on record that I never said you "made a fool of yourself" - and I merely suggested some media training would do you good.

If you want any of my quotes amplified all you got to do is ask and point out the quote and I will do so. But, please stop saying that I stated that you had "made a fool" of yourself. You didn't make a fool of yourself.
 
Leper

You have a habit of taking threads off topic with long winded meandering posts.

They are not easy to summarise.

Whether you intended to or not, they conveyed the clear message that I had made a fool of myself on Joe Duffy.

If it's any consolation, I agree fully with your clarification that I didn't.

Brendan
 
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