Gardai plan for the early release of violent rapist.

Irish Times
...many reports have linked him to the disappearance and presumed murder of a number of women in the Leinster area in the 1990s. These cases include Annie McCarrick, Jo Jo Dullard and Deirdre Jacob.However, extensive investigations by gardaí, during which Murphy was questioned and his cars and property forensically examined, found no evidence linking him to any of the cases.
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Newstalk Website
Retired Detective Superintendent P.J. Brown says Murphy was considered their prime suspect. “He failed to cooperate with any of the Garda questions” he said.
“And the question as an older policeman now retired I would ask why did the disappearances stop when Larry Murphy went to prison” he added.
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With regard to the apology I cannot find evidence but I am 100% certain I have heard it on radio. Unfortunately, Complainer, you'll just have to take my word for it.
 
VOR said:
With regard to the apology I cannot find evidence but I am 100% certain I have heard it on radio. Unfortunately, Complainer, you'll just have to take my word for it.
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Re the 'is the prime suspect' bit - The retired Garda said that he WAS the prime suspect, not that he IS the prime suspect (as you claimed).

Re the apology - I absolutely take your word that you heard it on the radio. That gives me absolutely no comfort that it is actually true.

Let's not go basing very important decisions on what we hear/read in the (mostly tabloid) press.
 
demoivre said:
Murphy got sentenced to 97 years in total for his crimes but because the sentences were to run concurrently the effective sentence was 15 years, reduced to 10.5 years with remission - how any right thinking individual can be happy that justice was done in this case is beyond me.
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Who thinks justice was done? I think all people acknowledge that the system is completely flawed.
 
Some interesting views from http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-new...i-fear-media-could-push-murphy-over-the-edge/

Gardaí have major concerns about the way the media is pursuing freed rapist Larry Murphy and believe that the conduct of the press may be putting the general public in danger.


Commissioner Fachtna Murphy and his senior management team have been alarmed at the constant coverage of Murphy's movements and are worried that the pressure could ultimately lead to the 45-year-old either re-offending or committing suicide.


A senior source close to the garda commissioner said: "A highly stressed sex offender is the most dangerous thing that can happen. He is undoubtedly under huge pressure at the moment. We think he is already at high risk of re-offending. The media say they are trying to raise public awareness about him but in reality they may actually be putting people in more danger by the manner in which he's being pursued."


Retired assistant commissioner Martin Donnellan said the excessive media coverage of Murphy could be detrimental to the work of gardaí. "Too much hysteria is unhelpful. I am confident of the garda management system in place to monitor him. People should have faith in the gardaí to do their jobs," he told the Sunday Tribune. `
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Interesting article in this morning's times about the issue of whether people have a right to know about Larry Murphy's whereabouts.


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The Gardai consider him so dangerous that he requires round the clock supervision by a team of Gardai, yet they wont have him sectioned? Why?
 
redbhoy said:
To keep the public in Fear!
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Are you trying to set a world record for how many times you can say the same thing about a conspiracy involving the 'establishment' in this Country? I think we get it at this stage.
 
Sunny said:
Are you trying to set a world record for how many times you can say the same thing about a conspiracy involving the 'establishment' in this Country? I think we get it at this stage.
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Maybe :)

Am I wrong?? I dont seem to think so. How about you? Do you think the Just Us system works in this country?
 
redbhoy said:
Maybe :)

Am I wrong?? I dont seem to think so. How about you? Do you think the Just Us system works in this country?
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Well I think you are well on your way to the record!

Do I think the Guards leave him on the streets because they want us to live in fear? No, I dont.
 
Sunny said:
Well I think you are well on your way to the record!

Do I think the Guards leave him on the streets because they want us to live in fear? No, I dont.
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Let me know if I beat the current record will you. :)

Can the Gardaí have him sectioned and sent to a Mental Home? Why arent they doing it? Because their Masters in the Law Society tell them they cant maybe?
 
redbhoy said:
Let me know if I beat the current record will you. :)

Can the Gardaí have him sectioned and sent to a Mental Home? Why arent they doing it? Because their Masters in the Law Society tell them they cant maybe?
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Since his mental state was not raised in his trial, it's questionable if any attempt to section him would stand up in court. As someone put it to me yesterday, he's bad, not mad

Of course this could all be fuel to your fire. Am I correct in thinking that you seem to be suggesting that the release of this man is a conspiracy of the Gardai, courts and politicians to keep us all in a state of fear.?
 
Mpsox said:
Of course this could all be fuel to your fire. Am I correct in thinking that you seem to be suggesting that the release of this man is a conspiracy of the Gardai, courts and politicians to keep us all in a state of fear.?
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Not just him. The whole system is a joke which seems to benefit the crooks and crims rather than the ordinary Joe Soap. But what would the Judges, Barristers, TDs etc care when they wont encounter reality in their Ivory Towers.
 
for god sake...this person has been through the court system, served his sentance, and has every right to get on with his life....like it or not!
 
starlite68 said:
for god sake...this person has been through the court system, served his sentance, and has every right to get on with his life....like it or not!
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The OP was questioning the system that allows a vicious criminal like him back out so early.
Whats your thoughts on the system and not Larry Murphy?
 
I don't understand why "automatic remission" is frequently described as "remission for good behaviour". As far as I know if a convict behaves very badly he still qualifies for full automatic remission perhaps with a few weeks added on for various infractions.

Do judges take "automatic remission" into account when sentencing?
 
redbhoy said:
The OP was questioning the system that allows a vicious criminal like him back out so early.
Whats your thoughts on the system and not Larry Murphy?
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the system is not perfect! nobody is saying that it is. but its all we have to work with. like it or lump it!
 
ajapale said:
I don't understand why "automatic remission" is frequently described as "remission for good behaviour". As far as I know if a convict behaves very badly he still qualifies for full automatic remission perhaps with a few weeks added on for various infractions.

Do judges take "automatic remission" into account when sentencing?
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That's the case, you get it no matter what. Aside from trying to escape and commiting other crimes while in prison, you get the remission. As far as I know judges can't take that into account as it's a separate system, i.e. that's a prison service policy/issue rather than judicial. The judges have to give the "appropriate" sentence for the crimes and so can't add on time knowing up to 25% could be knocked off. The concurrent sentence is a different issue and is a judicial issue.

I must admit, this case is one that tests the old liberal views to the maximum. It's right, Murphy has served the time given to him so like all others he deserves a chance. I hate the media coverage and think it will do far more harm (to me he's likely to just disappear). But...but, given what little we know it doesn't sound like he has put any effort into changing, can someone like that change? So how would my liberal views stack up if he did go out and hurt someone else? Would I extend the hand of concilliation if he moved in next door to me and my family? To be honest, no. I know it's NIMBY, I don't care.

To me it's pretty simple, once you've served your sentence you're out, the problem here is the concurrent sentencing. If he had been sentenced fully for all his crimes, he'd be locked away for life and we wouldn't have this problem.
 
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