Gardai plan for the early release of violent rapist.


I thought you could only get life for murder or manslaughter. As far as I know he got the max sentence for rape but got 25% remission for good behaviour.
 
Given the crimes we do know he actually did commit and his total lack of remorse and refusing treatment while he was in prison, it is clear the man is a psychopath. This alone should be enough to deny him early release from prison as his likelihood of re-offending is extremely high.
 
The coverage of this has gone over the top. He is not the only dangerous sex offender released onto the streets. The guards say they know where he is and have a plan to monitor him. We should leave them to it. Otherwise this guy will end up living on the streets where it will be impossible to monitor the scumbag. Gangs of people turning up at halfway houses where he is not even staying shows how dangerous the situation is getting.
 

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Teatime said:
I thought you could only get life for murder or manslaughter. As far as I know he got the max sentence for rape but got 25% remission for good behaviour.
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Murphy got sentenced to 97 years in total for his crimes but because the sentences were to run concurrently the effective sentence was 15 years, reduced to 10.5 years with remission - how any right thinking individual can be happy that justice was done in this case is beyond me.
 
As well as being a sex offender, police strongly suspect his involvement of the disappearance of 3 other women. There is no hard eveidence but he may be a seriel killer so I can understand the media interest.
You only have to look at some recent murders such as the swiss girl in galway and the lady in the limerick hotel that were commited by people on bail despite the objections of gardai.
 
Rois said:
Given the crimes we do know he actually did commit and his total lack of remorse and refusing treatment while he was in prison, it is clear the man is a psychopath.
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I'm amazed at your ability to come to a definitive psychiatric diagnosis based on a few media reports. Perhaps we could get rid of some of the HSE's waiting lists with this 'diagnosis by media' technique?
 
Complainer said:
I'm amazed at your ability to come to a definitive psychiatric diagnosis based on a few media reports. Perhaps we could get rid of some of the HSE's waiting lists with this 'diagnosis by media' technique?
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Well purely based on the facts of the crime he committed Id be inclined to think there is something very very wrong in this mans brain also - I dont think one needs to be a psychiatrist to deduce this.
 
Complainer said:
I'm amazed at your ability to come to a definitive psychiatric diagnosis based on a few media reports. Perhaps we could get rid of some of the HSE's waiting lists with this 'diagnosis by media' technique?
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You must admit though that we hardly need qualifications to realise that this is a man with evil tendencies. 'Diagnosis by media' might be a term that his defence team use next time, should he ever fall foul of the law again.
 
MrMan said:
You must admit though that we hardly need qualifications to realise that this is a man with evil tendencies. 'Diagnosis by media' might be a term that his defence team use next time, should he ever fall foul of the law again.
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You must bow down before the professional classes. Its the way things work in Ireland.
Only their opinions count!
 
One day, maybe evidence will be uncovered on the missing women.
Evidence that links to Larry Murphy.

How is that man ever going to get a fair trial, he's already been convicted by the media and a lot of people.
If you want a conviction you need a fair trial first.

If it did go to trial, I'd bet one newspaper would manage to collapse it by being reckless.

This isn't helping
 

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I saw the front of today's Indo and it would not have been out of place on a red top rag.

The Gardai will monitor this man and others as is the law.

I for one believe that the focus and energy of the public should be applied to ending concurrent sentences.
 
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micmclo said:
If it did go to trial, I'd bet one newspaper would manage to collapse it by being reckless.
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This would be a worry of mine too, but I think its important also, to have as much exposure in the initial couple of days, so every woman in the country, unless living under a rock, will at least have a vague idea of what he looks like.
Without being flippant I pity fair-haired chin-dimpled men across the country for the coming months.

The fear with this sort of exposure is, hes damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - his thinking may be 'I might as well'. I believe he will reoffend, but I'm no expert.
It also opens the door for other sexual pedators - his MO has been so widely reported and its not at all impossible, though perhaps implausible, that others may use his 'ways' to go about their own evil doings, assuming/hoping he will get the blame.

I believe many offenders have a right to a second chance. But I believe they have had to earn it to deserve it and I think that elective rehabilitation, both inside and upon release, should be a absolute minimum.

Im general, when it comes to released prisoners, I struggle with 'they've served their debt' (though it has to be a resonable sentance, so not in this case) vs 'they disregard others human rights, they surrender their own'.

Unfortunately, none of us has all the answers.
 

Hear hear.
 
Complainer said:
I'm amazed at your ability to come to a definitive psychiatric diagnosis based on a few media reports. Perhaps we could get rid of some of the HSE's waiting lists with this 'diagnosis by media' technique?
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I am amazed at your arrogance in assuming that I have made this diagnosis "based on a few media reports".
 
Rois said:
I am amazed at your arrogance in assuming that I have made this diagnosis "based on a few media reports".
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It's either that or you are a medical professional that has worked with the man and you are leaking confidential information on a public bulletin board. Take your pick.

truthseeker said:
Well purely based on the facts of the crime he committed Id be inclined to think there is something very very wrong in this mans brain also - I dont think one needs to be a psychiatrist to deduce this.
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Just to be clear - the crime was committed ten years ago. Very few people know what's going on inside that man's head today - despite the populist media rush to judgement.
 
Complainer said:
Just to be clear - the crime was committed ten years ago. Very few people know what's going on inside that man's head today - despite the populist media rush to judgement.
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Thats what worries me - the only person who knows whats going on in his brain is himself - no one can say with certainty that he will do something like this again. But given his past actions one can certainly say that he had, at one point, the capacity to be a psychopath - do you really think that the passage of 10 years would change someones nature so fundamentally?
 
Could the government not send him into a Mental home and pump him full of drugs (truth **************************??) and see if he had anything to do with the other girls disappearances or do they need his consent for that??
 
Complainer said:
Just to be clear - the crime was committed ten years ago. Very few people know what's going on inside that man's head today - despite the populist media rush to judgement.
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I agree with you that we should not rush to judge what is going on inside his head. Surely nobody can really know what goes on except Murphy himself. But there is no denying the following:
He raped
He was sentenced to 97 years in total for rape and attempted murder
He refused to undertake any rehabilitation while inside.
He has never apologised. His brother has though.
He is out in 10.5 years.
He is still the prime suspect in a number of murders.

I do not like this media witch hunt. It is gutter press journalism. But I also think that the system has let the people down in this case. This man should never be able to walk the streets again if he has not even attempted to rehabilitate.

As I said above, our energy would be better spent improving the legal system so people like Murphy cannot go free.
 
truthseeker said:
But given his past actions one can certainly say that he had, at one point, the capacity to be a psychopath - do you really think that the passage of 10 years would change someones nature so fundamentally?
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I have absolutely no idea whether his nature has changed in 10 years, just like all the other posters on this thread have absolutely no idea whether his nature has changed. It doesn't seem to stop others from professing with certainty about his current state of mind.

redbhoy said:
Could the government not send him into a Mental home and pump him full of drugs (truth **************************??)
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You've been watching too many James Bond movies.

VOR said:
He has never apologised.
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Where did you get this from?

VOR said:
He is still the prime suspect in a number of murders.
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WHere did you get this from?
 
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