Paul O Mahoney
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So that's that finally put to bed.Both sides claiming victory in the EU-AZ court case, but while the EU technically won, the measures imposed on AZ don't seem to worry them unduly.
The court, while finding in favour of the European Commission’s demand for interim measures, ordered only that the company deliver 50 million more doses by the end of September. If the firm fails to do so it would pay a fine of €10 per dose not delivered.
All other measures sought by the European Commission have been dismissed, and in particular the Court found that the European Commission has no exclusivity or right of priority over all other contracting parties
AstraZeneca and European Commission both claim victory in vaccine court case
AstraZeneca has been ordered to deliver 50 million more doses by the end of September.www.thejournal.ie
Well actually I'm now reading that the court did find that AZ breached the contract by not using UK sites to meet 'best efforts' to deliver the vaccines, so there may be a round 2 on that score.So that's that finally put to bed.
I think AZ will just fulfil what the court asked,pay any money for shortfall, and wave each other goodbye.Well actually I'm now reading that the court did find that AZ breached the contract by not using UK sites to meet 'best efforts' to deliver the vaccines, so there may be a round 2 on that score.
Good question, the data isn't being released.I see that we are averaging about 300 Covid cases per day in Ireland. Do we know what average age of the people testing positive is?
I see that we are averaging about 300 Covid cases per day in Ireland. Do we know what average age of the people testing positive is?
Excellent, they really want the second dose to be administered and for good reason.I was due to get my second AZ jab last Saturday. Couldn't attend so texted back "new". I was expecting to have to wait up to 3 weeks to be called again. Got our new date yesterday for our jab today. In and out at the Aviva in about an hour.
Excellent, they really want the second dose to be administered and for good reason.
The key here is if the link between cases and hospitalisation is weakened by vaccination, that data is now the data that is needed.If its shown that it is then itll be a major step forward, if not then we might be in a bit of bother.Yes. It is concerns over the rise of the Delta variant in Ireland and of the possibility of yet unknown variants.
Following the news that 284 new cases of Covid were reported to the HSE in the last 24 hours, Dr Holohan said he is “concerned” by the growth of the Delta variant here.
“Today’s data show a concerning increase in transmission of the Delta variant in Ireland. We estimate that Delta accounts for up to 20% of cases reported in the last week. We have also seen a number of outbreaks associated with this variant reported in the last week.”
Sam McConkey, professor of infectious diseases at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, said while the new variant was largely affecting younger, unvaccinated cohorts, it still carried significant risks.
“It is not a trivial thing and it is not the case that there is no mortality associated with it,” he said.
“My view is that it would not be good public health policy to let it spread rampant in the population, and it adds a huge urgency to getting people vaccinated.”
It also might make the case for a more intensive testing regime, he said.
“It is more infectious so maybe we should be testing casual contacts, i.e., contacts of contacts.”
Travel was not something which should be encouraged he said, not necessarily due to the Delta variant, but the risk of as yet unknown mutations of the disease.
“Even before this became an issue, I would have said international travel is not something we should be doing, I’m largely with Tony Holohan on this. What I would be worried about is the evolution of another variant which could spread widely among people who are vaccinated. That would be a terrifying prospect.”
I agree with all that but this bit;The key here is if the link between cases and hospitalisation is weakened by vaccination, that data is now the data that is needed.If its shown that it is then itll be a major step forward, if not then we might be in a bit of bother.
Many will argue that if this becomes a " young person " issue that'll be fine as " they'll get over it" and the evidence supports that but that's only half the story, living with an active virus in the community only leads to more avenues for the virus to mutate and it could avoid the vaccines ability to protect a population.
I just hope that by late Autumn we aren't back at square one, but that depends on so many factors with full vaccination of as much of the population as possible over the next few months the priority , with detailed analysis of the effects of the vaccination programs not on a country by country basis but on a global scale.
The rich world and largely white humanity has worked together. If there was really a global plan I'd still be waiting for my first dose and the old and vulnerable around the world would be getting their vaccines first.Since the start of this the world has been firefighting the virus, the vaccines were produced by global collaboration and it was proven that when faced by a global issue humanity has the tools and inclination to come together a fight the problem.
Now the world needs to put in place strategic plans to finish this fight but also put in place plans not only to prevent another pandemic but to react quickly to future events like this and that includes poorer countries , because you cant expect events like this will stop if it's only the western world is vaccinated.
Perhaps the proposal by the WHO to produce vaccines and other medicines in SA might be the start of something different.I agree with all that but this bit;
The rich world and largely white humanity has worked together. If there was really a global plan I'd still be waiting for my first dose and the old and vulnerable around the world would be getting their vaccines first.
Instead we've looked after our own first, vulnerable and not vulnerable alike, and now we are facing waves of mutations. If we do get a strain that the vaccines can't cope with it'll serve us right for our morally reprehensible behaviour. "As you sow, so shall you reap", as it says in the Bible or Shakespeare or some other work of fiction.
You can argue the morality of the approach, but it's unlikely to make any difference to the spread of variants.I agree with all that but this bit;
The rich world and largely white humanity has worked together. If there was really a global plan I'd still be waiting for my first dose and the old and vulnerable around the world would be getting their vaccines first.
Instead we've looked after our own first, vulnerable and not vulnerable alike, and now we are facing waves of mutations. If we do get a strain that the vaccines can't cope with it'll serve us right for our morally reprehensible behaviour. "As you sow, so shall you reap", as it says in the Bible or Shakespeare or some other work of fiction.
I'm certainly no scientist but I would not be surprised if there is a link between the total viral load in the community and the likelihood of mutation. Given that those who get very sick generally have a higher viral load vaccinating the vulnerable should reduce that total. I also assume there is a link between viral load and transmissibility. I could of course be completely wrong.You can argue the morality of the approach, but it's unlikely to make any difference to the spread of variants.
About 21% of the global population has received at least 1 dose of a vaccine. So if we vaccinated all the most vulnerable people worldwide first, it may reduce the global number of deaths. But there'd still be 79% of the global population un-vaccinated. So really, the same amount of opportunity for variants to develop and spread.
I will not countenance itI could of course be completely wrong.
Yes, except in limited circumstances i.e. the children are medically vulnerable or are living with people who are high risk.I will not countenance it. In any event, there must be a moral question mark over the idea to roll out an emergency vaccine to children for a disease that, statistically, poses little risk to them, while poorer nations are crying out for vaccines.
Medically vulnerable, for sure, where appropriate. I'm dubious of the 'living with people who are high risk' reasoning, maybe if the high risk people can't be vaccinated . . but still.Yes, except in limited circumstances i.e. the children are medically vulnerable or are living with people who are high risk.
Yes, up there on the dubious charts ahead of not calling the Rwandan Genocide a genocide.I will not countenance it. In any event, there must be a moral question mark over the idea to roll out an emergency vaccine to children for a disease that, statistically, poses little risk to them, while poorer nations are crying out for vaccines.
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