Coronavirus - latest global news - discuss Irish news the other thread
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UCC going to online teaching tomorrow.
These numbers belie the truth. They are not testing a lot of people for Covid-19 unless they fit the criteria - have been to an affected area or have had contact with someone who has. They are now saying that they will change the criteria, but perhaps it's too little too late. As the head of the WHO says, we need to be doing a lot more.
Unless my English teacher taught a dodo, we are several months too late to be identified as in any way proactive with COVID-19 or the SARS-COV-2 virus and several weeks too late to be seen to have reacted in a timely, effective manner. Thermometers alone are not sufficient diagnostic equipment for COVID-19, labs need to test for the virus; see below in my post.
On the Joe show yesterday (Weds 11th March) a woman recounted how in Kilkenny her GP referred her to the HSE for testing 3 times. After questioning by HSE staff (non-medical no doubt) about travel to or from affected areas, she was sent home on each occasion untested. However the woman's GP and herself identified recognisable COVID-19 signs and symptoms. Another member of her household has now developed similar symptoms. With this kind of behaviour from "professional healthcare staff" what hope have the vulnerable in our society got of surviving the worst ravages of this pandemic? Why not take swabs for testing from individuals who present voluntarily at testing facilities?. Why can GPs not take swabs and submit them en bloc to hospital labs? It takes 36 hours to get test results back, but the sooner the swabs are taken the sooner the test results will be available. Unless of course the HSE in Kilkenny is your only hope. Then you are probably doomed.
Simon and his useless Dept of Health and HSE mandarins need to get gone and put the professionals in charge, but not from Kilkenny please.
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The people in the Dept of Health cannot be useless, surely?
Because if they were, then there is absolutely no way we'd ever be paying some of the highest rent in the County for office space, to accommodate so many of them on Lr Baggot Street, is there?
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US restricts travel from Schengen area:
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These are exactly the same restrictions imposed by the US on China on Jan 31 (when China had 10,000 cases). Schengen area now has 17,000 cases. Ireland and UK excluded for political/"special relationship" reasons I guess - no reason to be excluded from a health perspective. In his primetime speech Trump got some major details wrong which partly explains why some of the newspaper reporting is incorrect. (The fact that this could happen in a speech delivered live to millions is disturbing but hardly surprising).
In short:
- Foreign nationals barred if physically present in Schengen area during the previous 14 days
- US citizens and legal residents are exempt and can return (but must self-quarantine for 14 days)
- Lots of exceptions for different classes of visa - government officials etc.
No flights are cancelled or grounded, though airlines may themselves stop flights for commercial reasons. Goods/cargo not affected.
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These are exactly the same restrictions imposed by the US on China on Jan 31 (when China had 10,000 cases). Schengen area now has 17,000 cases. Ireland and UK excluded for political/"special relationship" reasons I guess - no reason to be excluded from a health perspective. In his primetime speech Trump got some major details wrong which partly explains why some of the newspaper reporting is incorrect. (The fact that this could happen in a speech delivered live to millions is disturbing but hardly surprising).
In short:
- Foreign nationals barred if physically present in Schengen area during the previous 14 days
- US citizens and legal residents are exempt and can return (but must self-quarantine for 14 days)
- Lots of exceptions for different classes of visa - government officials etc.
No flights are cancelled or grounded, though airlines may themselves stop flights for commercial reasons. Goods/cargo not affected.
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One clarification to my previous post, in case anyone knows somebody who may be returning to the US.
The proclamation does not address quarantine issues - that will be dealt with by a separate Dept of Homeland Security notice, expected in a day or two. For travel from China self-quarantine was required for 14-days. My guess is this will also apply for travel from Schengen, but this remains to be seen. Having one set of rules for someone returning from Paris and another for someone returning from London makes little sense, but there you go.
The proclamation does not address quarantine issues - that will be dealt with by a separate Dept of Homeland Security notice, expected in a day or two. For travel from China self-quarantine was required for 14-days. My guess is this will also apply for travel from Schengen, but this remains to be seen. Having one set of rules for someone returning from Paris and another for someone returning from London makes little sense, but there you go.
Latest news in Ireland:
- A second Covid-19 case at Trinity College has been confirmed; the first case associated with the college was said to have made “a good recovery”
- Basketball Ireland has instructing all basketball competitions and events to be suspended with immediate effect
- Actors Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson have announced that they have both tested positive for Covid-19 while filming in Australia.
- Mainland China reported 15 new infections, eight of which are in Hubei. There have been 11 new deaths, ten of which were in Hubei.
- The NBA has suspended play indefinitely after after a player on the Utah Jazz preliminarily tested positive for Covid-19.
Folks can we keep this thread for news - or use news events to make your points indirectly 
For opinion on government measures there is this thread:
For opinion on government measures there is this thread:
The government's response to Coronavirus
Trinners and the airlines dealt with it when it was too late. The virus got in there. Even if the guberment insisted on either of these they would probably have been told where to go unless they were willing to hand over the dosh they were going to lose. Under EU regulation if an airline...
www.askaboutmoney.com
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Irish army has been put on yellow alert from 16th March:
Updates from Taoiseach's address in Washington DC
- NPHE met last night and issued new advice to government
- There will be many more cases, we must face reality some people will die
- The virus can be slowed making it easier for health service to cope
- Disease effects will be mild for most people, but older people and those with chronic illness at real risk
- We have not witnessed a pandemic of this nature in living memory
- From 6pm today to 29 March
- Schools, colleges, childcare facilities to close
- Cultural institutions closed
- Indoor gatherings of 100 and outdoor gatherings of 500 people should be cancelled
- You should continue to go to work but work from home if possible
- Shops will remain open
- Restaurants and others can stay open but should practice social distancing
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India has barred the entry of all foreign tourists for one month starting tomorrow in a bid to contain the coronavirus.
All football matches in Spain’s top division, La Liga, have been suspended for two weeks over fears of the spread of the coronavirus, the league’s organising body said in a statement on Thursday.
The death toll from coronavirus in Spain has jumped from 47 to 84 in the last day, according to Reuters citing the country’s health ministry.
All football matches in Spain’s top division, La Liga, have been suspended for two weeks over fears of the spread of the coronavirus, the league’s organising body said in a statement on Thursday.
The death toll from coronavirus in Spain has jumped from 47 to 84 in the last day, according to Reuters citing the country’s health ministry.
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The Irish Times now have a live page for Coronavirus updates... summarising below:
www.irishtimes.com
- MCD Productions has postponed all shows until 29 March.
- Schoolboy football games cancelled – DDSL have cancelled all games. Clubs have cancelled training.
- Dublin GAA Board, having considered the statement issued by An Taoiseach Leo Varadkar this morning in relation to the Covid-19 pandemic, have decided to cancel all club games and training.
Coronavirus crisis: Ireland enters 'delay phase' in tackling Covid-19 pandemic
Schools, colleges and childcare facilities will close this evening until March 29th
On the Joe show yesterday (Weds 11th March) a woman recounted how in Kilkenny her GP referred her to the HSE for testing 3 times. After questioning by HSE staff (non-medical no doubt) about travel to or from affected areas, she was sent home on each occasion untested. However the woman's GP and herself identified recognisable COVID-19 signs and symptoms. Another member of her household has now developed similar symptoms.
She may have SIMILAR symptoms, but it might not be Covid19. There is an element of panic and panic feeding panic. If the woman was NOT from an infected area and had NO contact with a confirmed contact, then it would be unusual for her to be a person with the virus.
She may have SIMILAR symptoms, but it might not be Covid19. There is an element of panic and panic feeding panic. If the woman was NOT from an infected area and had NO contact with a confirmed contact, then it would be unusual for her to be a person with the virus.