I’m not sure why you keep bringing solar panels into the discussion and I’d suggest of you do 15k per annum 90 odd percent of your charging would be done at home. Anyway an ev is a much more pleasant drive than a diesel.It will be a second hand car purchase. I don’t intend to buy after that. One car to last for retirement. I do around 15000km or so. It’s not about suitable. I’m not paying an EV premium, plus EV drivewayset up, queuing for recharge hassle, plus/ minus Solar panels just to suit an agenda.
That's not correct the efficiency of thermal power stations is between 35 and 40% , maximum maybe 50%.Small ICE engines convert ~30% of fossil fuels burned into motion, large centralised power stations convert ~90% of fossil fuels burned into electricity and EVs convert over 90% of that electricity into motion
Sorry I took that figure from memory, creating a bit of misinformation myself! GE/EDFs latest combined cycle gas power station is 62% efficient, a long way from the 90% I quoted.That's not correct the efficiency of thermal power stations is between 35 and 40% , maximum maybe 50%.
It's impossible to get that high efficiency from fossil fuels because there is always waste heat generated in any energy conversion due to entropy and the laws of thermodynamics.
Yes electric cars are very high efficiency due to the fact that there is no energy conversion because it’s stored as electric energy. The problem is getting it into the battery in the first place, its never going to be 100% renewables, the only renewable sources we have that are dependable were built in the 1920s and 1950s the hydro power stations and they maybe can get to 85% efficiency
renewables are too expensive and not a priority? i think we are probably finished here !The world plans to burn more than 8 billion tonnes of coal in 2023. More than any previous year in history. Coal is cheap and readily available. It doesn’t depend on sun or wind. Germany is reopening coal fired electricity plants. Renewables are too expensive to set up and not a priority right now with debt so high, healthcare in crisis and war still ongoing. With rising unit costs of electricity EVs are down the list of priorities in my view. At least you know at the diesel pump where you stand. Most are dreading their winter utility bills right now.
im not even sure if my 4 year old will ever drive a car we could have moved to self driving at that stage.I've a 15 yr old and an 11 yr old kid. Reality for the 11 yr old is that she will probably never drive a gear shift and she is unlikely to ever fill a car from a petrol/diesel pump. In 10/15 years time, petrol pumps and stations as we know them will have gone the way of Xtravision.
EV premium? In your case would an EV not make financial sense? Lower fuel costs (even without solar panels), lower servicing costs, lower tolls. The hassle you mention queuing to recharge is probably not a concern with your yearly mileage. And if time is so precious you'd save time by never having to refill at a petrol station again. On those cold winter mornings you could heat the car remotely without leaving your house.It will be a second hand car purchase. I don’t intend to buy after that. One car to last for retirement. I do around 15000km or so. It’s not about suitable. I’m not paying an EV premium, plus EV drivewayset up, queuing for recharge hassle, plus/ minus Solar panels just to suit an agenda.
Things never advance that quickly, making bold predictions like that are bound to be unfulfilled.I've a 15 yr old and an 11 yr old kid. Reality for the 11 yr old is that she will probably never drive a gear shift and she is unlikely to ever fill a car from a petrol/diesel pump. In 10/15 years time, petrol pumps and stations as we know them will have gone the way of Xtravision.
My life is very different from where it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, I commuted into the office daily in a diesel car, bought DVD's and CD's, used a digital physical camera, stored images on DVD's and discs and used a physical card or cash for paying for things. Nowadays, I work from home, stream movies and music, store everything in the cloud and pay for things using my mobile phone.What were you doing in 2013 ,your lifestyle is not that much different in 2023, yes you have a few nicer gadgets but that's the height of the change. People think updating a smartphone or zoom meetings is the same technology change as overhauling the entire energy infrastructure of the world, they are completely different things and levels of difficulty
In 2022, 79.3 percent of all new cars sold in Norway were 100 percent battery-electric powered vehicles.My life is very different from where it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, I commuted into the office daily in a diesel car, bought DVD's and CD's, used a digital physical camera, stored images on DVD's and discs and used a physical card or cash for paying for things. Nowadays, I work from home, stream movies and music, store everything in the cloud and pay for things using my mobile phone.
Some countries are further ahead then we are, Almost half the cars sold in Sweden in August was PHEV/BEV and the technology is only going to get better and the % is only going to increase.
Norway only has a population of 5 million and is one of the richest countries in the world from selling its oil and gas. It is not a comparison to Europe or even the rich world. Norway does alot if things that nobody else does due primarily to its sheer wealth and very low populationIn 2022, 79.3 percent of all new cars sold in Norway were 100 percent battery-electric powered vehicles.
even so, it shows what can be done with the right planning and incentives, things are only going one way and itll happen relatively quickly imo.Norway only has a population of 5 million and is one of the richest countries in the world from selling its oil and gas. It is not a comparison to Europe or even the rich world. Norway does alot if things that nobody else does due primarily to its sheer wealth and very low population
even so, it shows what can be done with the right planning and incentives, things are only going one way and itll happen relatively quickly imo.
Battery electric is now the second most popular power-train among UK new car buyers, supplanting diesel for the very first time.
I have an 8 year old Leaf, the battery ‘state of health’ or life is at 85%, 70k kilometres on the clock. The original Leafs (and even the later ones to a certain extent) have very poor battery chemistry and management, a ‘modern’ EV will last significantly better than mine has even.Hi,
Serious question - would people here be confident in buying a 3-4 year old EV or Hybrid? If so, what life expectancy on the battery?
That's a great pointTo be honest I’d be more confident than buying a petrol/diesel because you can easily read-out the condition of the battery from the computer.
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