Why are our new case numbers of Covid so high....every day.

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Purple said:
Being anywhere isn't 100% safe. Being outdoors is, in itself, a very strong mitigating factor.
Being outdoors playing football with no mask is lower risk than being indoors in a standard kitchen or living room while wearing a mask.
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Probably have to ban man to man marking though. Only zonal defence allowed.
 
odyssey06 said:
There were cases and spread at outdoor yoga sessions.
Being outdoors isn't 100% safe, sustained close contact \ extra droplets dispersed in heavy breathing is still a risk.
To be safe, you need to mitigate the risk either with distancing or masks etc
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I’d prefer to follow the WHO advice on this. Do not wear a mask during physical activity.
 
EasilyAmused said:
I’d prefer to follow the WHO advice on this. Do not wear a mask during physical activity.
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That's not quite the WHO advice though is it. It mentions "vigorous intensity physical activity" and would also advise you don't do this activity in the immediate vicinity of others.
 
Leper said:
I don't have sympathy for anybody in the situation. I'm obeying all the restrictions, so should they.
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Some of the rules imposed are quite arbitrary and some were even laughable. Just recalling for example the substantial meal rule of 9,50 Euro - as if the Virus would distinguish here between people having a meal and not having that meal.
Or the rule which limited the time you could have spent in a restaurant / pub - which encouraged pub crawling...
The parks here where I live are full all the time with people of all ages congregating, drinking together, etc.
The Garda only made once an effort in spring last year get that dissolved - never ever.

Several neighbours here are doing renovations - exchange of windows and doors, others do new gutters, new walls, etc.
I assume Garda is looking the other way as along as no neighbour is complaining.
 
Merowig said:
Some of the rules imposed are quite arbitrary and some were even laughable. Just recalling for example the substantial meal rule of 9,50 Euro - as if the Virus would distinguish here between people having a meal and not having that meal.
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People behave differently when they are just out for drinking than out for a sit down meal.
More mingling, more loud talking etc
That's what the virus 'distinguishes' between.

That was the intention behind the substantial meal angle.
Other jurisdictions made distinctions on which premises could open with the intention of keeping booze only establishments shut.
All of them in a sense arbitrary, but with the same underlying rationale.
Probably they should have just gone with the original plan of restaurants only open and all pubs shut but gastropubs objected.

Similarly the time limited option was because the more time you spend in a place, the more exposed you are.
The more drinks you have, the less aware you are of need for distancing etc
You might go on a pub crawl but not an eating crawl.

People took the proverbial but what alternative measures would have been better?
If you have a better suggestion on how the establishments could have opened with safety restrictions that were enforceable and would be effective fire ahead.

As for outdoors, probably turning a blind eye as outdoors is less risk and if the stuff is going to happen, and powers v house parties are so limited, better it happens outdoor.
 
There's a recent BBC article outlining outdoor v indoor
www.bbc.com

Covid: Can you catch the virus outside?

The risks of catching Covid indoors are well-known, but what are the chances of being infected outdoors?
www.bbc.com

I would be curious as well re: climate and wind as a factor... we rarely get 'dead calm' weather here but in a hot and humid climate there may be less wind and so less dispersal of droplets.
 
EasilyAmused said:
Brownian Motion, anyone?
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The wind, any wind, will have a greater influence on particle movement. If it's sunny then the sun will have a greater effect. Anyway, it's more about the random movement of atoms than water particles, which are bigger and heavier and therefore more influenced by gravity.
 
The COVIDIOTS thread seems to have disappeared. I knew that I should not have gone to Lidl on a Thursday and especially a Thursday when they got their gardening items in for the first time. Today in Lidl Stillorgan it was like a scrum. Aisles packed with people jostling to get their hands on all sorts of gardening items. Planter boxes being set up in the aisles, trolleys piled high.....not one person was social distancing. This was at 8 a.m.

Lots of people walking around with with a glazed/ panic FOMO look in their eyes. It was an unsettling experience.

I was probably the bigger covidiot having gone there in the first place, especially seeing as I was not there for gardening items.
 
I made the mistake of going to Lidl a few weeks back. The difference between it and my usual visits to Dunnes was night and day. People squeezing past each other, brushing against you to reach in for something, I respect personal space and expect others to do the same so it really wound me up. I did notice an increase in numbers in Dunnes this week but in fairness the tannoy was quick to remind people to keep social distance (it was not a pre-recorded message either so people were aware they were being monitored).
 
I love Dunnes but I spend twice as much as I do in Lidl. That's mainly due to my general love of cooking and eating food and drinking and so forth.
I'd say the social distancing in the food hall in M&S is superb since only pensioners have enough money to shop there.
 
My local M & S in Blackrock is always pretty busy. The problem with the store is that they have hot air shooting down on top of your head from these cannon type things. They would put a parting in your hair. It is terribly uncomfortable. As a result I just cannot shop there in the winter time.
Purple said:
I'd say the social distancing in the food hall in M&S is superb since only pensioners have enough money to shop there.
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Purple said:
Jasus, the pensioners must be struggling, what with all the restaurants closed as well.
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That is a dreadful insult. Where would all the grandchildren be if there were no grandparents around to buy the bigger expensive Easter Eggs that parents who won't buy or are unable to afford? Next you'll be expecting us to shop in Lidl! Now, where's my bus pass as I heard there are loads of Easter Eggs in M&S? That bottle of wine in their excellent take-away-meal section is attractive too. (Oh God! Just remembered this is Good Friday).

I'll let you back to discussing the ins+outs of Senior Loans, re-mortgaging, the honesty of some in Davey and the friendliness of the banks, Eircom's customer service and if a manhole is improperly named etc. No horse racing today either. Things can only get better . . .
 
I guess this is the French version of a shebeen \ golf gate :)

Police in Paris fined over 100 diners late Friday at an underground restaurant flouting coronavirus restrictions and arrested its organiser, after a week of allegations that ministers attended similar rule-breaking events.

www.thejournal.ie

French police bust 100 people breaking Covid restrictions in underground restaurant

Participants were shown enjoying caviar and champagne at the event costing €220 per person.
www.thejournal.ie www.thejournal.ie
 
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