Why are our new case numbers of Covid so high....every day.

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Why are our case numbers so high? We have been in level 5 lockdown for months. Most people I know are observing all the rules and staying at home. Yet the new cases are over 500 every day. Where are they coming from? How are they spreading?

I saw a doctor say that when they go to input the reason for new cases they are being forced to write "community transmission" because the recording system does not have enough choices or selection of reasons for them to input the reason.

I mean if the cases are a result of inward travel but passed on to third parties, then it should be recorded as travel and not as community transmission.

I am beginning to think that we are not being told the real reason for these high cases.
 
Or maybe the people themselves aren't telling the docs the real reason they were exposed, if it was because they were breaking restrictions?

What reason did the doctor want to record?
 
Kimmagegirl said:
Most people I know are observing all the rules and staying at home. Yet the new cases are over 500 every day. Where are they coming from? How are they spreading?
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Agreed it is frustrating but the latest from NPHET suggests that people are not observing all the rules and staying at home. Mobility is increasing, as are the number of contacts. That suggests that the real reason is simply peoples behaviour.
 
Ceist Beag said:
Agreed it is frustrating but the latest from NPHET suggests that people are not observing all the rules and staying at home. Mobility is increasing, as are the number of contacts. That suggests that the real reason is simply peoples behaviour.
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Which proves that lockdowns one year later are no longer effective.

When the only tool you have in your toolbox is a hammer
everything looks like a nail.

They need to get that new tool, more vaccines
 
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Kimmagegirl said:
Why are our case numbers so high? We have been in level 5 lockdown for months. Most people I know are observing all the rules and staying at home. Yet the new cases are over 500 every day. Where are they coming from? How are they spreading?
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Well this certainly doesn't help :rolleyes:

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All the new strains are more transmissible. .
The strain doing the rounds during Lockdown 1 had a lower Rnumber than the current strains.
Lockdown 1 was far more restrictive than Lockdowns 2 and 3.
During Lockdown 1 75% of commuters were WFH. Now that figure is 50%.

To name but a few...
 
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With Ireland being so exposed to the UK and UK strain for the recent upsurge, how forcefully did Michael martin make this point if at all with boris Johnson. He said boris told him that he could not spare any extra vaccines until UK was vaccinated, haven't heard anything about this conversation from boris Johnson though. Methinks Michael was happy with this reply as it gave him a good excuse and prevented him having to embarrass the Eu. I think the UK are more willing to give than the irish government to receive.. I think Michael did not labour the point too much and the brits knew they were giving him the answer he really wanted anyway.
 
joe sod said:
Which proves that lockdowns one year later are no longer effective.

When the only tool you have in your toolbox is a hammer
everything looks like a nail.

They need to get that new tool, more vaccines
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It proves nothing until you can prove the counterfactual of what would happen without a lockdown. Which is of course impossible. Unfortunately, proof is hard to come by in these unusual circumstances.
 
joe sod said:
Which proves that lockdowns one year later are no longer effective.
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When following a “living with the virus” approach, lockdowns work when they are in place and stop working soon after they’re lifted.

They’re exceptionally effective with following a “Zero Covid” strategy.
 
One thing that is very concerning is that we entered Lockdown 2 when the daily cases rose to about 500 per day.

Now we’re in Lockdown 3 and the daily cases have plateaued at about 500.
 
EasilyAmused said:
When following a “living with the virus” approach, lockdowns work when they are in place and stop working soon after they’re lifted.
They’re exceptionally effective with following a “Zero Covid” strategy.
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Zero covid is last year's news, and we did not achieve it, it requires a totality of response down to minutae which our state has no history of, sure quarantine even with the meagre number of travellers entering is still not in place now and that's after months of talking about it. The only realistic target is to keep new cases under a thousand a day, speed up vaccinations as much as possible and open.up what we can under those limits. The problem with nphet is that they were always trying to get to unrealistic targets and then blaming people in general when they were not achieved. A climate of extreme negativity built up which meant that people lost hope and the good intentions on.the first lockdown were impossible to replicate again
 
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Case numbers have increased here for three days on the trot.

My neighbour is running a mini-marathon on St Patrick's Day with a number of other people. There are probably other “non-public” St Patrick’s Day events nationwide.

I have two house extradition sites within a five minute walk of my house.

Gerry Killeen has predicted a fourth wave by the end of the month.
 
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One more thing that has bother me is the lazy way RTE interview the politicians. Last January a nice asking of Leo about the issue of travel as a source was put down with a tut tut and a don't be blaming those that travel as its really US that are just not behaving. December there was no UK Variant but by end of February 90% of all cases are now reported as UK Variant. So Leo, how about some math, 1+1 is 2, 2+2 is 4, and so on so the 91 year old who gets it and transfers it is number 10,000. But serious travel control means 0+0 is 0, and 0+0 is 0. 3 people travelled all the way from Brazil through some other countries to get here and low and behold they are carrying the Brazilian strain. do the math Leo
 
I really hope people listen to the advice for tomorrow and that we don't end up setting our progress back again. If my experience in town this evening is anything to go by I'm not optimistic. The first bit of good weather and people are out in large groups again. If the numbers jump again in two weeks we'll only have ourselves to blame.
 
Numbers are rising on the Continent already again - likely they will do here as well - regardless of St Patrick’s Day.
 
john luc said:
One more thing that has bother me is the lazy way RTE interview the politicians. Last January a nice asking of Leo about the issue of travel as a source was put down with a tut tut and a don't be blaming those that travel as its really US that are just not behaving. December there was no UK Variant but by end of February 90% of all cases are now reported as UK Variant. So Leo, how about some math, 1+1 is 2, 2+2 is 4, and so on so the 91 year old who gets it and transfers it is number 10,000. But serious travel control means 0+0 is 0, and 0+0 is 0. 3 people travelled all the way from Brazil through some other countries to get here and low and behold they are carrying the Brazilian strain. do the math Leo
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Do the math? I didn't do honours maths and can't fathom the above.
 
The lockdown is effectively over now, the young have basically reverted back to socialising again, I saw them wandering back from parties early this morning in a student town, the guards know this too because they are ignoring it once nobody makes a complaint. The over 80s are well advanced in vaccination, once the over 70s are done the lockdowns must end. The north and UK will be open anyway, nphet will lose authority if they persist in trying to maintain meaningless restrictions.
Last night on late late show, Mario rosenstock made fun of nphet and the health experts. It was brave of him but it shows that even RTE has picked up on the changing mood in the country.
 
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