Poor oul Tubs
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Presumably he knew exactly what he was getting. Very odd that he saw his money being underreported in the media by 50k a year and stayed quiet as a mouse.
I suspect it may turn out to be the thin end of the wedge. If it applied to Tubbs, why wouldn’t it apply to others.
The audit has revealed a system that diverts income from sponsors directly into the pockets of presenters instead of going into RTE coffers and then being paid to Tubbs as salary. What’s really damning is that RTE guarantees these payments in the event of a sponsor pulling out.
It’s a stroke - designed to artificially reduce the extent of salary paid. I trust Revenue are taking note.
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He knew what the deal was. If I was him I’d keep schtum too but he knew what was going on.
It is the more damning when you consider when this was going on, RTE execs were coming out pleading the poor mouth, cutting RTE staff pay, and saying oh we've cut payments to the likes of Tubridy also. That is all shown up to be lies. RTE staff are gunning for Tubridy, unions going after RTE. False statements have been made to the media.
He needs to come out and say I see now I should have flagged the discrepancy between what was declared by RTE and what was in my RTE contract remuneration. Donate the money to charity. Otherwise, very real chance this ends his career here for a long time.
He needs to come out and say I see now I should have flagged the discrepancy between what was declared by RTE and what was in my RTE contract remuneration. Donate the money to charity. Otherwise, very real chance this ends his career here for a long time.
But from his statement yesterday, he seems to be as surprised by all this as the next man......he must only have found out very recently.
“Like many people, I’m surprised by the announcements made in RTÉ’s statement today regarding the errors in the reporting of its accounts. It is unfortunate that these errors are in relation to how RTÉ have reported payments made to me but I just want to be clear: this is a matter for RTÉ and I have no involvement in RTÉ’s internal accounting treatment or RTÉ’s public declarations in connection with such payments. Obviously, I’m disappointed to be at the centre of this story but unfortunately, I can’t shed any light on why RTÉ treated these payments in the way that they did, nor can I answer for their mistakes in this regard.”
And you believe everything you read in a press release?
He didn't notice that what was declared as his remuneration in his RTE contract didn't match what RTE declared in its public statement? This wasn't money going from the sponsor to Tubridy. It was in his contract with RTE which is why RTE kept paying it even though the sponsor pulled out. It was part of RTE remuneration.
We're not talking a few euros.
That public statement of presenter pay is a news story every year. It beggars belief that Tubridy didn't pay attention to it and wasn't aware of the discrepancy.
He has no credibility on any future matters on TV or radio if he persists in this line.
But if it's a sum that he didn't even notice the discrepancy, it will be no hardship to him to donate it to charity.
He has a choice - the money or his career for the forseeable future.
Personally, I don't care how much Ryan Tubridy was paid. The known overpayments amount to €325,000.00 (nice extra money if you can get it!). Do we know it stopped at €325,000.00? The figures provided were to 2022 and we have got to hear about 2023 payments yet But, the bottom line for me is that a television licence costs €160.00 and the overpayment to Mr Tubridy amounts to the cost of 2031 TV licences. Is it time to scrap the TV licence altogether?
I have a feeling there's more to this overpayment stunt to come.
I have a feeling there's more to this overpayment stunt to come.
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The Late Late Toy show appeal will be happy to help him out of his predicament I'm sure!
Fair question. Not always, I suppose. But I think Tubs is a man of integrity.
Ah come on - are people now not entitled to go on holiday during holiday season? Her contract is finishing up shortly, I understand - often folk have unused leave that they are actually obliged to take.
This is a massive issue and she's the boss. She should have come home immediately - any boss would have.
It's a massive issue that occurred on her watch. She would have known the report was due soon. I don't think it's a coincidence she disappears when it was due to be published.
At this stage Revenue need to go in. There's significant sums at stake here. I'm not buying the 'clerical error' argument, this was a very deliberate action. It is entirely possible in executing this shady maneuver tax has not been reported correctly. And if so penalties should be applied.
I have seen no details to support any underpayment of tax?
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This is of course much bigger than "tubs" and goes to the heart of the RTE mindset that sees itself as a elite aristocracy of thought, whose mission on earth is to bring the rest of us around to its socialist and statist point of view. And as with every socialist elite ever, especially those that constantly preach equality, some cadres are more equal than others.
Orwell had them sussed all those decades ago; plus ça change.....
The RTE mindset is so embedded that reform is simply not possible - the only solution is aggressive defunding. With the Greens in charge of the broadcasting portfolio, and, coincidentally, RTE clambering on board the catastrophic climate change ideological bandwagon (Hello George!) I fear we will see much noise and no action. A mass licence fee boycott is the only way forward.
Orwell had them sussed all those decades ago; plus ça change.....
The RTE mindset is so embedded that reform is simply not possible - the only solution is aggressive defunding. With the Greens in charge of the broadcasting portfolio, and, coincidentally, RTE clambering on board the catastrophic climate change ideological bandwagon (Hello George!) I fear we will see much noise and no action. A mass licence fee boycott is the only way forward.
I have seen no details that assure me all has been done here above board. RTE were pulling a stroke - to what end? They were concealing something, the only question is what. Tax avoidance? Making it look like Tubridy was paid less than he was while lying to their own staff about lack of money? Both?
And I have no confidence in Grant Thornton who have very close ties to RTE, to get to the bottom of this.
Revenue need to go in and audit all of these so-called self employed presenters. Apparently they've already expressed concerns about the way RTE structured payments to presenters using 'companies' as fronts.
Is Ryan Tubridy really a self employed contractor? He wasn't hired for a once off gig or show. He is not a consultant. He has a long standing relationship with RTE on multiple media, for more than 2 years.
That's how is RTE payments are structured. So this money to him was coming from RTE.
And he knew it wasn't the amount declared by RTE in their public statement.
The more you look at this the worse it gets.
If he wants to salvage his career he is going about it the wrong way. If he keeps going the way he is going I don't want to hear or see him on RTE ever again. Not a cent more of licence fee or taxpayers money should be going to this man. Heads need to roll in RTE also. And I am not alone in this view.
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It will be interesting to see if some of the other posters who disagree with me on poor Tubs will wish to distance themselves from this comment.
I agree RTE was pulling a stroke in the sense of they were claiming that Turbidy's pay-cut was greater than it effectively was. I think it's a bit of a leap to add a second charge that this round-about payment wasn't taxed properly. I have seen no suggestion of that. I understood that RTE is trading at a loss so what tax benefit could even be gained here by RTE?
These were under the counter payments. That's not my description, that's from The Irish Independent.
There is no leap. There were dodgy dealings going on here. What was concealed and why. The charge is concealment. It needs to be investigated independently to establish in this concealment if everything else was above board. Or were they so focused in their concealment they did not accurately report other matters. It has tax implications not just for RTE.
RTE is trading at a loss? No wonder.
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