Trump Culture has arrived in O Connell Street,

galway said:
In fact I am pretty sure a local contractor who is only today arriving home with his machinery has spent quite a lot of time out canvasing for FF as long as I have known him,
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I bet he'll do so next time around too.
 
galway said:
What I haven't Figured out yet for the most part the protestors DNA is FG and FF not SF,
In fact I am pretty sure a local contractor who is only today arriving home with his machinery has spent quite a lot of time out canvasing for FF as long as I have known him,
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Parish pumping sectoral interests disguised as measures for "small business" or "for the people" is vintage FF!
 
Itchy said:
Given the protesting method used and government response, the message is clear now, disruption pays. The more the better.
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Queue the Public Sector Unions and all the other greedy vested interest groups who put their wants ahead of the Country's needs.
 
Itchy said:
Given the protesting method used and government response, the message is clear now, disruption pays. The more the better.
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Patrick O'Donovan Minister for Culture, Communications and Sport Wants examination of 'Lopsided fuel protest coverage,
Interesting reading,
The poor boys and gals out protesting needed the Midea to tell them when it was past time to go home when with their own eyes it was long past time to go home if they did not like the way the protesting was heading,
The next time they will be out is at the next election in their area supporting FG and FF who the railroaded in the past week,

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Itchy said:
Parish pumping sectoral interests disguised as measures for "small business" or "for the people" is vintage FF!
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Itchy said:
Given the protesting method used and government response, the message is clear now, disruption pays. The more the better.
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Disruption can pay, for sure. But the primary focus should be on what has caused the disruption. With 56% of the population in favour of the protests it sends a clear signal that there is a significant underbelly of disenchantment at how the country is being run.

It would seem to me that the fuel price spike was the final straw to provoke the disruption that has occurred. Govt, and recognised representatives in trade unions and associations have lost sight of what is occurring.

The anti-govt, anti-EU, Ireland First genie is out of the bottle.
 
This illegal wildcat action was carried out by a mixture of business people , farmers and right wing agitators who jumped on the bandwagon.
Trade Unions including IBEC and representative associations are correctly constrained by Industrial relations legislation and operate generally by negotiation and on the minority of cases by legal industrial action and not by blackmail.
 
Deiseblue said:
This illegal wildcat action was carried out by a mixture of business people , farmers and right wing agitators who jumped on the bandwagon.
Trade Unions including IBEC and representative associations are correctly constrained by Industrial relations legislation and operate generally by negotiation and on the minority of cases by legal industrial action and not by blackmail.
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Thankfully that is the case currently but thy are more than partial to a bit of blackmail when it suits them.
I hope the fact that any agitation for pay increases and strikes on the back of these protests would embolden the right wing agitators that you spoke about and that will cause the State Sector Unions to pause.
 
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Sister Sara said:
With 56% of the population in favour of the protests
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Have you a source for that?

Edit: I see that there is an Irish Independent Poll on the topic. The populist left/right parties (same thing, different branding) are overwhelmingly in support of the protests and the anti-democratic actions of a self appointed mob. That's hardly surprising given the history of the parties in question.

The supporters of the centre left parties currently in Government and the more left wing parties which understand what it to live in a constitutional democracy are far less supportive of that mob.

Given that they are essentially just populist without any real ideological identity this will push Sinn Fein back into their traditional base of reactionary bigoted xenophobic nativists which will probably drive away many of their newer supporters who are far more ideologically aligned to Labour. In the possible event of Sinn Fein forming the next government it will do so with that newer more liberal wing very weakened. That will be a bad thing for the country and the economy as Sinn Fein are not really democratic in their DNA.
 
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The Journal poll was taken 8th April, 27% said they didn't support them.
And even then 30% said I support the cause but not the disruptions.
And that was before the disruptions really kicked in.
 
Independent Ireland supporters are 99% in favour of the protests and their brethren in Sinn Fein are 96% in favour.
I always hear a faint echo of jackboots when I listen to Sinn Fein talking. There's something distinctly neo-fascist about their rhetoric. It's far more than an echo with Independent Ireland but they are cut from the same cloth.
 
Firefly said:
Same here. I actually tighten up a little. It's unnerving and it shouldn't be the case.
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Pearce Doherty's support of the blockades on the radio was really disturbing. A mob was challenging the legitimacy of the Dail and he was totally unwilling to condemn them. It reminded me of Trump after the 6th of January attacks in Washington.

It was the epitome of Trump culture.
 
Sister Sara said:
if the govt publish a reasonable set of proposals...among them, the abolishment of carbon taxes on diesel machinery where no viable commercial electric alternative exists
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Just on this; if we were really interested in reducing our carbon emissions through taxation then we would shift carbon taxes away from transport and onto red meat (beef and lamb) farming. The production of one Kilo of red meat generates over 600Kg of CO2 equivalent, which is more than is generated by each passenger flying from London to New York.

So lets help reduce climate change move the carbon taxes to the area which is actually causing the problem.
 
Purple said:
if we were really interested in reducing our carbon emissions through taxation then we would shift carbon taxes away from transport and onto red meat
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I agree with this, and it would protect our farmers from imports from Brazil, as the tax is paid at the till, regardless of where it comes from
 
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