Have we unleashed Micky D on somebody?!
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Anyone thinking that these threats are from hostile state actors is for the birds I think. The threat received by Independent News reads like a 14yr old and a couple of pals up to serious mischief.
At worst these are European State Intell drills similar to drills that were carried out in London on 7/7 and in New York on 9/11, without the catastrophes in tow on this occassion.
Even the Aer Lingus pilot was claiming the threats were not credible. Either he is a bit of a loose cannon or he can recognise a load of nonsense when he hears it. In all likelhood he was informed by the people investigating the level of threat that the threat was not credible. Which makes the use of scrambled fighter jets look bizarre, unless it was a drill.
At worst these are European State Intell drills similar to drills that were carried out in London on 7/7 and in New York on 9/11, without the catastrophes in tow on this occassion.
Even the Aer Lingus pilot was claiming the threats were not credible. Either he is a bit of a loose cannon or he can recognise a load of nonsense when he hears it. In all likelhood he was informed by the people investigating the level of threat that the threat was not credible. Which makes the use of scrambled fighter jets look bizarre, unless it was a drill.
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Patrick Kielty asking An Taoiseach questions along similar lines, "What do you guys know that we don't?"
Late Late Show - Mícheál Martin
That’s what makes to so effective. It causes massive disruption but many people don’t think it could come from a State player because it sounds like nonsense. I haven’t heard any security expert say it wasn’t a State player.
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It could be a State player, I don't know. Applying some logic it would appear not to be, a hostile State actor that is.
Aside from the note, its the idea that fighter jets were scrambled to escort a commercial passenger jet to land at a military airport where the pilot was apparently informed there was no credible threat and informing his passengers of same that is odd.
When you parse it all back, Europe was attacked by anonymous email accounts!
I'm going to put a guess in here that even the Russians and Chinese would estimate that it is well within the capabilities of European powers to reciprocate by generating anonymous email accounts of their own and causing as much disruption to airline traffic and media centres in Moscow, St Petersburg, Bejing and Shanghai?
This being distinct from actual cyber threats and other covert intelligence threats that may be occurring. Míchaél Martin, rightly, mentioned the vulnerability of under water sea cables. But why would Russia or China bother with them now, assuming it would be more costly and more dangerous for them to attack those cables, when they now know they can just fire off some anonymous emails and cause major disruption?
I'm of the understanding that our sea cables are vulnerable to attack and damage is because any attempt by Western powers to reciprocate would be a very costly and dangerous thing to attempt? Thus, whoever can carry out such an attack will do so if there is an apparent advantage in conflict to be gained.
Anonymous email accounts do not sound like an advantage as they can be easily reciprocated in the other direction.
I'm thinking it was a drill.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uk-military-chief-russian-threat-b3081171.html (UK military chief issues stark warning over Russian threat)
"Britain’s most senior military officer said it was the most dangerous period he has witnessed in his adult life"
Alarming stuff from Britain.
“That threat - principally from Russia, but more broadly globally - is rising.”
“We’re talking about targeted assassinations, we’re talking about sabotage, we’re talking about cyber attacks,”
"European security officials only this week said they were investigating whether a series of bomb threats against European airlines and news organisations originated in Russia.
"A cross-border investigation between intelligence and security agencies to trace the origin of the threats is under way, intelligence officials told the FT, stressing that there is still a long way to go before attribution can be made."
Some in the community were confident regardless that Russia was the most likely culprit, the newspaper reported"
In bold: if security and intell services are a long way from attributing responsibilty for the attacks then why is the Britains most senior military officer being wheeled out to scare-monger the population?
We have been here before with WMD in Iraq, more recently with Iran's "weeks away from obtaining a nuclear weapon" over the last 30yrs.
Russia is a military super-power by virtue of its nuclear arsenal, but not much else. It is stuck-in the mud in Ukraine that is surely becoming more and more unpopular in Russia itself
Official Data shows 450,000 Russians Killed in War
Don't believe Russia propaganda about the Oleshsky evacuation
That European and/or UK and US powers cannot stem and counter their cyber-warfare does not make much sense to me either.
"Britain’s most senior military officer said it was the most dangerous period he has witnessed in his adult life"
Alarming stuff from Britain.
“That threat - principally from Russia, but more broadly globally - is rising.”
“We’re talking about targeted assassinations, we’re talking about sabotage, we’re talking about cyber attacks,”
"European security officials only this week said they were investigating whether a series of bomb threats against European airlines and news organisations originated in Russia.
"A cross-border investigation between intelligence and security agencies to trace the origin of the threats is under way, intelligence officials told the FT, stressing that there is still a long way to go before attribution can be made."
Some in the community were confident regardless that Russia was the most likely culprit, the newspaper reported"
In bold: if security and intell services are a long way from attributing responsibilty for the attacks then why is the Britains most senior military officer being wheeled out to scare-monger the population?
We have been here before with WMD in Iraq, more recently with Iran's "weeks away from obtaining a nuclear weapon" over the last 30yrs.
Russia is a military super-power by virtue of its nuclear arsenal, but not much else. It is stuck-in the mud in Ukraine that is surely becoming more and more unpopular in Russia itself
Official Data shows 450,000 Russians Killed in War
Don't believe Russia propaganda about the Oleshsky evacuation
That European and/or UK and US powers cannot stem and counter their cyber-warfare does not make much sense to me either.