Dontthinkso
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I think your ship has sailed away from port reality. The "so called unvaccinated". I don't know who you think you'll convince with this nonsense.The reality is there are roughly 600 people in hospital altogether 300 are from the so called unvaccinated. How many of these are under 50 .not obese and no underlying conditions. If you want to stop the world and blame the few unvaccinated and the kids off with you.target who needs it and let the rest get on with it .When the take up of 5 to 12 year olds is less than 30 to 40 percent will you blame these or is this the most of today's unvaccinated you are on about.
While I'm on it another thing no one is mentioning is the profile of people in hospital if they are so called half and half are their ages similar, their issues similar their background., are they living in poverty. would they have got it anyway?Also how can Stephen Donnelly say the benefits of vaccinating 5 to 11 year olds are not getting covid and not having long term effects from covid when it dosnt affect this cohort at all.Surely the only benefit is not passing it to someone compromised and when you can pass it while vaccinated this surely makes this a stupid reason to get it.
There is a place in the modern world for Trade Unions though, but modern Trade Unions, just like there's a place for questioning vaccines and our Covid response, just that have to be rational logical questions.Why are people even engaging with this nonsense? Don't waste your time trying to convince them. They can't even do basic maths. You would be more successful trying to convince @Purple that there is a place in the modern world for trade unions.
It's more about not leaving unfounded claims unchallenged on a forum.Why are people even engaging with this nonsense? Don't waste your time trying to convince them. They can't even do basic maths.
I suggest you go back and spend a little more time reading the previous threads in this forum before posting again.While I'm on it another thing no one is mentioning is the profile of people in hospital if they are so called half and half are their ages similar, their issues similar their background., are they living in poverty. would they have got it anyway?Also how can Stephen Donnelly say the benefits of vaccinating 5 to 11 year olds are not getting covid and not having long term effects from covid when it dosnt affect this cohort at all.Surely the only benefit is not passing it to someone compromised and when you can pass it while vaccinated this surely makes this a stupid reason to get it.
Even you can't believe that. Basic maths will prove in the end who's right. At first it was all about the unvacinated passing it, now it's they are more likely to pass it.then there was the viral load from an unvacinated person being worse than the vaccinated now it's there's 45 people more in icu in the whole of Ireland of which your implying wouldn't be there otherwise not regarding their health etc .it's this 45 that we shut the whole country down for and try to force people to get vaccinatedThe 'few' unvaccinated are the ones stopping the world from moving on.
It's not a question of belief. You've been asked for facts to justify your questions, it's obvious to everyone reading the thread you've got nothing to challenge the fact that vaccines work & that unvaccinated people are more likely to end up in hospital / ICU & that vaccinated people are less likely to be infected and transmit covid than unvaccinated.Even you can't believe that. Basic maths will prove in the end who's right. At first it was all about the unvacinated passing it, now it's they are more likely to pass it.then there was the viral load from an unvacinated person being worse than the vaccinated now it's there's 45 people more in icu in the whole of Ireland of which your implying wouldn't be there otherwise not regarding their health etc .it's this 45 that we shut the whole country down for and try to force people to get vaccinated
including healthy children who will no more than have a sniffle from a dose of covid.
How is it a surprise that the level of knowledge and understanding of a completely new virus has evolved over time? Did you expect some scientists to wake up one morning and just know everything?At first it was all about the unvacinated passing it, now it's they are more likely to pass it.
Just look at the stats now on numbers requiring ICU intervention relative to hospitalisation and overall cases and try argue that vaccines are not working.now it's there's 45 people more in icu in the whole of Ireland of which your implying wouldn't be there otherwise not regarding their health etc .
Do the lives of people 'with issues' matter less than others? Would you like to explain to this lady why the life of her sister matters less?While I'm on it another thing no one is mentioning is the profile of people in hospital if they are so called half and half are their ages similar, their issues similar their background., are they living in poverty. would they have got it anyway?Also how can Stephen Donnelly say the benefits of vaccinating 5 to 11 year olds are not getting covid and not having long term effects from covid when it dosnt affect this cohort at all.Surely the only benefit is not passing it to someone compromised and when you can pass it while vaccinated this surely makes this a stupid reason to get it.
Unfortunately this narrative of people with underlying health issues " were probably going to die anyway " litters forums by those who try to justify their ill informed views on Covid and the vaccines. Its masks the lack of understanding or appreciation of the devastation the pandemic is having.Do the lives of people 'with issues' matter less than others? Would you like to explain to this lady why the life of her sister matters less?
What continues to surprise me is how those who focus on the 'underlying health issues' factor seem to think of them as some small minority when that is far from reality.Unfortunately this narrative of people with underlying health issues " were probably going to die anyway " litters forums by those who try to justify their ill informed views on Covid and the vaccines. Its masks the lack of understanding or appreciation of the devastation the pandemic is having.
What continues to surprise me is how those who focus on the 'underlying health issues' factor seem to think of them as some small minority when that is far from reality.
It's a least 200,000 people known and there are probably even more who don't know they have an issue, and if they were to get Covid it becomes apparent.What continues to surprise me is how those who focus on the 'underlying health issues' factor seem to think of them as some small minority when that is far from reality.
Yep, eventhough I know of someone 33 who was recovering from a serious illness, doing great got covid and passed 12 weeks later.And the other promulgated fallacy is that underlying health issues refers solely to the elderly.
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