There is much disillusionment out there at present. Bitterness even. The events of the past few years have impacted many. That was not the fault of any particular demographic. What happened was savage and unpredictable. We need to be careful not to turn on each other.Twilight years? At 66 when you get your "other people pay for it pass" your life expectancy is around 90.
I'm sure it is.
Giving free things to rich people, funded by both poor and rich people, isn't what I would call generous.
Again, why is taking something from rich people which is funded by both poor and rich people mean spirited?
True; old people are very entitled and they vote.
Why? What's the financial cost of not giving it to rich old people?
One of the richest cities in the world.Meanwhile in London ...
There is indeed. Usually misdirected.k
There is much disillusionment out there at present. Bitterness even.
Yes, but the young are mainly paying for it.The events of the past few years have impacted many.
No but the fixes have mainly benefitted the old.That was not the fault of any particular demographic.
It certainly wasn't unpredictable, not in the case of Covid and certainly not the 2008 Crash. The former was expected and the latter was inevitable.What happened was savage and unpredictable.
Exactly. Those with wealth shouldn't expect to keep getting free stuff from those with less than them just because they are old.We need to be careful not to turn on each other.
+1A little contrition, a little humility and a little gratitude wouldn't go amiss.
Yep, the hubris of old people thinking that children missing two years of school, tens of thousands losing their jobs, people losing their businesses and our National Debt hitting a quarter of a trillion to protect them (rather than them doing more to protect themselves or just losing some weight) wasn't even worth a thank you.+1
Fat lot of thanks we got for shutting the economy for the guts of two years to protect older people.
Agreed!There is much disillusionment out there at present. Bitterness even. The events of the past few years have impacted many. That was not the fault of any particular demographic. What happened was savage and unpredictable. We need to be careful not to turn on each other.
Nobody has asked for gratitude from the dead. A tad from the living would be nice.Well the vast majority of deaths arising from covid *whether from transfer to nursing homes of elderly/directly attributable are reported as taking place in the over 65s.
So there's a lot of dead people who can't thank you because.. they're dead.
Yes, but both Bloomberg and The Lancet said we had the best Covid response in the world. Therefore fewer old people died here because of the sacrifices made by young people.Well the vast majority of deaths arising from covid *whether from transfer to nursing homes of elderly/directly attributable are reported as taking place in the over 65s.
So there's a lot of dead people who can't thank you because.. they're dead.
But they aren't doing that for the children and grandchildren of strangers. Young people showed a remarkable social solidarity during Covid, the opposite of what their parents and grandparents showed after the 2008 crash. Young people made those sacrifices for people they'd never met.Many older people quietly help their adult children:
Often assisting with grandchildren when there are issues of dysfunction and more seriously, addiction.
Financially and emotionally.
I never hear older people stop talking about it!They don't tend to talk about this publicly (for reasons including stigma) but I assure you it's widespread.
Sure they've taken everything else so why not!Give older people a break.
I know, the ingratitude is depressing.Agreed!
What an uninspiring and depressing thread this has become.
You get a pension that is based on your contributions. All income is taxed. Non contributory pensions are means-tested. If you have assets apart from your home and a certain amount of savings these pensions are reduced or not paid at all.Yes, but both Bloomberg and The Lancet said we had the best Covid response in the world. Therefore fewer old people died here because of the sacrifices made by young people.
But they aren't doing that for the children and grandchildren of strangers. Young people showed a remarkable social solidarity during Covid, the opposite of what their parents and grandparents showed after the 2008 crash. Young people made those sacrifices for people they'd never met.
I never hear older people stop talking about it!
Sure they've taken everything else so why not!
I'm just not happy that the rich ones get free travel, o free anything else for that matter. Rich people should not get welfare payments. That shouldn't be too contentious and it isn't until you insert "old" after "rich".
Yea, but the vast majority of people don't pay enough PRSI to fund their State Pension. Children's allowance and carers allowance isn't taxed and that's income.You get a pension that is based on your contributions. All income is taxed. Non contributory pensions are means-tested. If you have assets apart from your home and a certain amount of savings these pensions are reduced or not paid at all.
Yep, the hubris of old people thinking that children missing two years of school, tens of thousands losing their jobs, people losing their businesses and our National Debt hitting a quarter of a trillion to protect them (rather than them doing more to protect themselves or just losing some weight) wasn't even worth a thank you.
Then why not pay golf club memberships for everyone over 66? It's good for health and sociability too.I have no issue with free travel as I know it encourages older people to partake in activities that they might not otherwise do.
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