The Govt. do seem intent on pushing reform and reduction in numbers.
Now that there's been some agreement on the concept of reform, it'll be intersting to see what form the Government believes this should take.
Will An Bord Snip Nua not be a template? Granted it is not customer-centric but surely it is a start.
I was like totally proved wrong.
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=128915&page=2
Those at the top retain their Xmas presents whilst those at the bottom might get a couple of quid in a couple of years if they reform their work practices and if the economy doesn't deteriorate futher.
In fact the extension of "retire on full benefits" date further benefits those at the top as they pull up the ladder on the way out.
Now that there's been some agreement on the concept of reform, it'll be intersting to see what form the Government believes this should take. Personally, I don't think they have a notion of what they really want in this regard or that they'd recognise real reform if it knocked on the front door of Leinster House.
If the government hasn't a clue about real reform then who does - the CS/PS themselves? If so, speak up please!
Why should we expect this time around to be any better ?
I agree with this ?/\ /\Because there is no choice. Savings are made or they aren't. If they aren't and the Government do nothing, then we are joining Greece in getting a bailout and the EU/IMF will do it for us.
but not with this /\ /\I have a feeling the unions know this and would prefer trying to work with the Irish Government rather than one of those outside bodies. They really couldn't care less about work to rule or protest marches.
I wish I had your faith in the intelligence of the Union leadership !
In fact the extension of "retire on full benefits" date further benefits those at the top as they pull up the ladder on the way out.
This should stop any strikes until the next budget.
The government as about nine months now to break the unions or outsource and privatise as much as possible.
There will be more public sector wage cuts in the next budget. There has to be or it'll be bankrupt country time.
I think experience shows that the PS Unions are able to run rings around the PS management when it comes to reform. The Benchmarking fiasco is a good example of this.Dear God !
Are you not prepared to give the putative deal a chance ?
If efficiencies/reforms deliver the required savings then what's the problem in part reversing the pay cuts or at worst freezing pay levels.
Is it possible that you merely wish to inflict further pay cuts on PS workers rather than contemplate alternatives ?
I agree, they are way to powerful to be broken by a mere elected government.As for breaking the unions , don't make me laugh !
Why do you say this?
I think its highly likely that they would have plenty of ideas but in reality they fear that they will simply be rejected by unions.
It is the unions that make reform such a difficult area, not a lack of ideas or political will.
Before today, the goverment stated that it need to make billions of euros worth of savings. 3 or 4 billion per budget for a number of years.Dear God !
Are you not prepared to give the putative deal a chance ?
If efficiencies/reforms deliver the required savings then what's the problem in part reversing the pay cuts or at worst freezing pay levels.
Is it possible that you merely wish to inflict further pay cuts on PS workers rather than contemplate alternatives ?
As for breaking the unions , don't make me laugh !
Before today, the goverment stated that it need to make billions of euros worth of savings. 3 or 4 billion per budget for a number of years.
Today we will probably see the near nationalisation of one or more bankrupt banks, and we also hear that Quinn have had the administrators called in. Think about it, it is meltdown time.
You can be sure that any 'reforms' the unions have just won't even come close to the billions of savings that's required.
If we paid the public sector zero - would this even be enough?
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