George Hook

Discussion in 'Letting Off Steam' started by Purple, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Purple

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    The problem is that the US media keeps incorrectly conflating socialism and liberal.
    I'm a liberal; pro-marriage equality, LGBT rights, individual freedom, legalisation of drugs etc but I'm not a socialist and I am a strong believer in freedom of speech and a free press. That means that God fearing, Mass going, FF voting, social conservatives (all things I'm not) are entitled to air their views.
    Those who were the outsiders have become the establishment but they are still acting like they are outsiders which leads to a tyranny of the majority.
     
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    I'm glad the situation is ending as a transfer from one radio slot to another within the same station. I don't believe the genuine people who run rape crisis centres and hostels for the abused would have condoned the witch hunt that was run against George Hook. The twenty of George Hook's nobody co-workers who signed a petition to get him off the air must now be looking at themselves in the mirror and I suppose they are so crass they don't know what to do next. I know one thing, if I spent my working time contacting sponsors who pay for such radio programmes to pull-the-plug on their advertising etc I reckon I'd be shortly looking for a new job. I'm not forgetting the former "pop-star" who walked off another radio programme interview in so-called protest which from where I sit is just another publicity stunt which she needed to aid her ailing career. The press scraped the bottom of the barrel against Hook too. In fairness, I should point out that amid the silence that was "support" for Hook, Pat Kenny did say publicly some kind words in favour of George Hook.

    George Hook is a giver. He lauds his mother who put him through private secondary school by paying in weekly instalments. I know George is no angel, but he was contrite in his apologies regarding his comments which put him in hot water. Whatever way you take Hook (pun intended), he was through the mill, a failed businessman, a tough enough life, a marriage that was seconds from being on the rocks, a monumental fight with his depression, a visit to a harbour pier where he contemplated immediate suicide. If there is anybody on our airways who would help victims of rape it is George Hook.

    I bet George will keep on giving because when all his demons were conquered that was what he did, keep on giving.
     
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    yea i think newstalk have made the right decision, but they didnt have much choice anyway as George hook had a very strong case for unfair dismissal, afterall what he said wasnt illegal or defamatory. I presume newstalk are required to continue to pay his salary while off. I have to say I was surprised at Ivan Yates joining the lynch mob I thought he was bigger than that, I wasnt surprised at the young pc types in newstalk joining the mob. Maybe they are a result of the facebook generation where everybody wants to comply with the popular opinion and dissenters are shunned
     
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    Yates sounded to me that he was supporting Hook. Everything he said on this, even on his new TV show, was in support though while still saying that Hook had said the wrong thing and had apoogised for it.
    Yate and Kenny kept the same line
     
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    Another big decision from Newstalk...Dil has been let go from her Saturday eve show. Very silly move going on strike...put Mgmt into a corner and there was only ever going to be 1 winner
    http://www.independent.ie/entertain...-her-newstalk-show-is-cancelled-36201338.html

    And in other news, following a few columnists at the IT saying they wouldn't go near Newstalk while Geroge was still there, Denis has hit back
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business...-brien-bans-irish-times-journalists-1.3245906
     
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    In fairness, Dil didn't want to work for a radio station that had George Hook on air. He's nearly back, she's nearly gone . . . Dil is getting what she wished and wanted . . . I wish her the best in her future media career.
     
  8. Daithi7

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    The PC brigade have become an almighty pain in the hole imho. I'd classify myself as a moderate liberal but these PC militants are nothing more than social nazis imho.

    George Hook apologised for some inadvertent comments on air. End of.

    No need for protests, walking out of interviews, lobbying sponsors to withdraw advertising, pejorative, & bs articles from socially militant fools likes like F. o'tool - heaven spare us!!!

    It was similar with Kevin Myers, who while I was no fan of tbh, was a provocateur, and when he made accurate observations about the hysterical reactions to the so called gender pay gap, and a few mild, but admittedly poorly conceived references to anti semitism, was fired from his column. Gone. Reading the' offending ' article, I am still flabbergasted that he was let go cos of that mild opinion piece. Modern Ieland has gone totally PC mad, and our daily dialogue is now being militantly moderated by intolerant PC Nazi-istas...... not good imho, unless you're a fan of censorship.
     
  9. Purple

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    The problem is that one man (or woman!)'s* free speech is another man (or woman!)'s hate speech.

    We need to decide if freedom of speech is important or not in this country because to me it looks like the Roman Catholic censors just been replaced by the Liberal/Feminist/Leftie censors.

    Does the excellent Stefanie Preissner's recent comment that the objectivisation of women is down to women and not men mean that she will also be silenced? When speaking about unrealistic images of women she said "The world is shallow and it's not just men. Actually very rarely, it's men. Men aren't buying those magazines. They're not created and constructed by men."

    *Life of Brian reference
     
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    I think Sean Moncrieff makes the point about the Irish having a herd mentality... once they were guided by the Church, now it's the liberal media. Most were never really Catholic, just as today most aren't really liberal, they are just following the herd and above all else don't want to be seen to be stepping out of line.
     
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    Moncrieff would be an authority on the liberal media!