Brendan Burgess
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The usual discrimination.Just been told any business that is not a profession ... so accountants , solicitors and doctors are deemed too well off to need it.......
accountants , solicitors and doctors are deemed too well off to need it.......
I would think that energy costs form a very small proportion of their overall costs so an increase is unlikely to threaten their survival.
Brendan
However, the following are regarded as being professions or the provision of professional services and as falling within the provisions of Section 441:
Accountant
Actor
Actuary
Archaeologist
Architect
Auctioneer/Estate Agent
Barrister
Computer programmer
Dentist
Doctor
Engineer
Journalist
Optician
Private School
Quantity Surveyor
Solicitor
Veterinary Surgeon.
Nothing a dentist uses required large amounts of power. Manufacturing, particularly where significant amounts of heat is required, food processing and things like that are what they are targeting.I'd have thought for example that dentists with specialised equipment would have sizeable energy bills.
I take your point regarding dentistry. My point is really that appearing to include literally everyone except a small range of professional services firms is ridiculous.Nothing a dentist uses required large amounts of power. Manufacturing, particularly where significant amounts of heat is required, food processing and things like that are what they are targeting.
The first thing that struck me is that it's going to be very expensive to administer.I take your point regarding dentistry. My point is really that appearing to include literally everyone except a small range of professional services firms is ridiculous.
And rightly so!We'll soon have bookkeepers and all sorts of unregulated health quacks claiming it, while accredited accountants and doctors can't. And there will be in time even more glaring anomalies.
In what professional services businesses is energy a major cost?It seems crazy that some businesses are entitled to avail of the scheme and others whose electricity and gas bills have also risen by 300% and have had their profits badly hit are not.
Depends on how you define major cost. Some computing businesses would easily hit that 10k cap and seem to be excluded by the "Computer programmer" entry.In what professional services businesses is energy a major cost?
€10k a month powering computers? My desktop in work costs around 10cent an hour to run.Depends on how you define major cost. Some computing businesses would easily hit that 10k cap and seem to be excluded by the "Computer programmer" entry.
I suppose the logic is that the above sectors operate at high margins and so don't need the support.Accountant
Architect
Auctioneer/Estate Agent
Computer programmer
Dentist
Doctor
Optician
Private School
Quantity Surveyor
Solicitor
Veterinary Surgeon.
With any of the services above you have medium to large operations, with huge heating and lighting costs for their employees. No more , on the other hand than you have small family shops, garages, coffee shops with smaller energy bills but also badly in need of a welcome break. Are they going to be excluded because energy is not a major cost? Of course not, and rightly so but the scheme has to be fair to everyone.
Depends how you define margins.I suppose the logic is that the above sectors operate at high margins and so don't need the support.
I didn't say the logic was sound.Depends how you define margins.
Accountancy was a high margin business 30 years ago when practices were stuffed with trainees earning £1-£3 an hour. Those days are long gone.
I can't imagine there being too much in the way of margins in the private school business. The only private school in my neck of the woods went public recently because they reckoned the private model is no longer financially sustainable.
Many leading manufacturers enjoy massive margins and all will be included in the scheme.
Oddly enough, in large swathes of the country, you can't find a doctor for love nor money and doctors are quitting practice quicker than new entrants are arriving, many of them saying that they're sick of continually being taken for granted.I suppose the logic is that the above sectors operate at high margins and so don't need the support.
It's 40% of the difference between last years cost and this years cost so probably a few thousand Euro max over the year for most of the above. There's certainly no doctor in Ireland who would notice a few thousand euro one way of the other.
I don't know what the issue is with private schools. They subsidise the public school system. They should be encouraged, much like private healthcare.The only private school in my neck of the woods went public recently because they reckoned the private model is no longer financially sustainable.
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