Okay, so you were not registered as a job seeker and considered unemployed. Maybe then you could not claim your "investment employment" as subsidiary employment.
I have sent an email to Welfare to enquire if I will qualify.
I phoned today and asked if investment income would be considered as "employment" and prevent me from qualifying and the welfare official didn't seem to think it would. She basically said that that the payment was not means tested.
I had presumed that I would qualify but your experience has made me unsure.
The qualifying criteria for the payment are confusing to say the least and as it is a relatively new payment, I would wonder if all the Deciding Officers in the different Intreo centers are applying the same rules.
I pay Class S PRSI on my investment income which, according to the Deciding Officer, means that I am "in employment".
Shirazman/bstop.I also started to pay S class on investment income.
Hi Sue Ellen
What you are suggesting here (contact Social Welfare and ask them to clarify your entitlements) sounds like a perfectly reasonable course of action, that might seem obvious to any reasonable woman or man. Unfortunately it's Social Protection we are talking about and reasonable doesn't enter into the equation. I made a couple of attempts to clarify my entitlements over the phone which proved futile. I took to the written route, providing them with my details. the first three response to my very specific questions were met with a cut and paste form the website. I pursued them and finally received the following (this is a copy and paste form the response)@wallym
To be sure, to be sure it is best to contact them and confirm your eligibility before going any further. This is their advice:
'Should you have any queries in relation to your pension entitlements, please contact Pension Section on 0818 200 400 or visit the relevant page on the Department’s website at:
https://www.gov.ie/en/service/e6f908-state-pension-contributory/#how-to-qualify.
Alternatively, you may wish to contact your local Intreo Centre, Citizens Information Centre or you may write to the Pension Section at the following address: State Pension (Contributory) Section, DSP, College Road, Co. Sligo'
The Department cannot provide information on possible future state pension entitlements, or comment on individual pension planning enquiries. It is important to note that pension entitlement can only be assessed on the basis of the eligibility conditions applicable on the date an individual reaches pension age.
I contacted Citizens Information and while the person on the phone was very helpful, the response was interspersed with "you should', "I think", "probably", etc, which didn't provide me with any real assurance regarding my entitlements.
Hi Sue Ellen
The guidelines you link to refer to the State Pension (Transition) which was abolished on 1st Jan 2014 and which operated under different legislation and rules. The Operational Guidelines for the current scheme, known as the Benefit Payment for 65 Year Olds are here:
Operational Guidelines: Benefit Payment for 65 Year Olds
You can email your local Intreo center with your qualification queries and the Deciding Officer will reply to you.
That's anybody's guess. My belief is its to limit the over 65s payment to as few people as possible.Why is the subsidiary income ceiling 7500 euro whereas the contributory pension is not means tested?
Sorry to add any further confusion to this thread but did we establish with any certainty if someone retired on an ARF (Paying greater than 7.5K PA) and paying the Class S stamp in the relevant year would qualify for this payment?
many thanks
Joe
You can email your local Intreo center with your qualification queries and the Deciding Officer will reply to you.
No reply yet.@bstop Did you receive a reply yet to your query that you appear to have sent before Christmas. I sent an email two weeks ago and no reply. With things being the way they are with Covid I'm not holding out much hope or holding my breath
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