Paul O Mahoney
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Its 2021 how can we have a health system that doesn't have data on patients?Cohort 7 were messed about a lot aswell, it was one the blots on the general success story of the vaccine rollout and seems to be repeating here.
Pudding and proof that it's our only way out of this.67% OF PATIENTS being treated in intensive care units with Covid-19 have not been vaccinated, HSE chief Paul Reid has said.
Speaking on RTÉ’s This Week, Reid said that of the 74 people currently in ICU with the virus, 67% have not been vaccinated while 3% are partially vaccinated.
It does mean though that 30% of people in ICU have been fully vaccinated.67% OF PATIENTS being treated in intensive care units with Covid-19 have not been vaccinated, HSE chief Paul Reid has said.
Speaking on RTÉ’s This Week, Reid said that of the 74 people currently in ICU with the virus, 67% have not been vaccinated while 3% are partially vaccinated.
Paul, I'm surprised you are surprised.The Sunday Business Post today has a story where it says the HSE are struggling with identifying people who would need a booster jab .
22500 people have been identified via hospital records, with 50% receiving appointments and 4000 receiving a jab.
Its goes on to say that the HSE thinks there are 50-100k people who will need a third jab.
Reading this one would be forgiven to think what do these people in the HSE do all day?
We have vaccinated a huge swathe of the population, surely the details of these vulnerable are already known, otherwise how were they identified initially?
This is unbelievable, there is no register for immunocompromised patients in Ireland and the work is very "labour intensive " in all honesty you couldn't make this up, the data was generated why are the reinventing the wheel? A simple database query would do this, but of course that would assume that the original data was captured properly.
Can't link but p10 in SBP has the story.
There are thousands of puddings, you can't avoid stepping on them while navigating your way around our world class healthcare system, staffed by heroes who are the best doctors and nurses in the world...Pudding and proof that it's our only way out of this.
There's nothing potential about it. The death and suffering caused is very real.Its maddening and potentially lethal to citizens
We know the vaccine is not 100% effective, and also that those with compromised immune systems will often have less of a response to, and so less protection from vaccines. It is highly likely that without the vaccine they would be in even worse shape.It does mean though that 30% of people in ICU have been fully vaccinated.
Oh I know I honestly thought that with the pandemic and the need to contact and record that it might have been different. The rollout was well done and they should be congratulated for that but this is just is wrong.Paul, I'm surprised you are surprised.
It turns out that if you question the structural weaknesses within the HSE, the massive duplication of processes, the almost complete lack of standardisation, the fact that the HSE is in fact just an umbrella body which sits on top of the old Health Boards and Voluntary Hospitals (whose structures are both intact and unconnected) and point out that modern IT systems cannot to rolled out when such systematic structural chaos is ubiquitous you are, in fact, naive.
When you ask whether the people working within the system should take any responsibility for the suffering and deaths that are caused by the work practices and structures they protect you are also naive.
When they can start from scratch they can do great work but when they are constrained by the existing structures and work practices it's a disaster.Oh I know I honestly thought that with the pandemic and the need to contact and record that it might have been different. The rollout was well done and they should be congratulated for that but this is just is wrong.
I'm not convinced about the J&J single dose effectiveness v Delta variant. Given that was used for over 50s, I don't think we should take the eye of the ball there on that cohort in terms of a booster.French study of over 22m people finds vaccines cut severe Covid risk by 90%
Largest study of its kind also finds vaccines appear to protect against worst effects of Delta variantwww.theguardian.com
This is a huge study 22m in fact and the results are way beyond what anyone would have thought possible.
We really need to get the poorer countries vaccinated now, the west has done what it can and has protected the majority.
In reality all the people who got J&J should be given a booster, I haven't read if AZ has a booster.I'm not convinced about the J&J single dose effectiveness v Delta variant. Given that was used for over 50s, I don't think we should take the eye of the ball there on that cohort in terms of a booster.
I'm curious where all the J&J and astrazeneca vaccines are going at the moment from all the production plants that popped up. India?
In reality all the people who got J&J should be given a booster, I haven't read if AZ has a booster.
I don't think theres another booster that has done trials available or at least not approved.
Last question, who knows.
They all wane but like everything now nobody seems to know exactly by how much, the French study is probably the best study so far, and that appears to have ifs and buts too.I'd be less concerned about AZ, at least they got 2 doses. In the hierarchy it's:
Pfizer 2 dose
Moderna 2 dose
AZ 2 dose
J&J 1 dose
I don't know if this will be sufficient for authorisation:
J&J Covid vaccine recipients are better off getting Pfizer or Moderna booster, NIH study suggests
The NIH study on "mixing and matching" Covid vaccines included more than 450 adults who received J&J's, Moderna's or Pfizer's shots.www.cnbc.com
Update Moderna got FDA approval for its booster today for over 65s and vulnerable people.I'd be less concerned about AZ, at least they got 2 doses. In the hierarchy it's:
Pfizer 2 dose
Moderna 2 dose
AZ 2 dose
J&J 1 dose
I don't know if this will be sufficient for authorisation:
J&J Covid vaccine recipients are better off getting Pfizer or Moderna booster, NIH study suggests
The NIH study on "mixing and matching" Covid vaccines included more than 450 adults who received J&J's, Moderna's or Pfizer's shots.www.cnbc.com
Perhaps have a read about how successful their mass testing strategy was.A testing pass antigen like Denmark was what was needed to suppress numbers because as we see the vaccinated can catch carry and pass covid.In Ireland we have also decided that close contacts of cases who have been vaccinated don't need test or to isolate .
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