If it was a loved one of yours that died, you would be understandably upset and in time very angry. Statistics don't take into account human suffering and while vaccinating people is of the utmost importance every precaution must be made to ensure its safely done.I agree that applying a break is ridiculous. No appointments should have been cancelled and people given a choice. The issue now is that vaccination targets won't be met. 180,000 due this week will not be even close. How many lives are going to be lost to covid or people get long covid because of vaccine delays. I understand caution but as I said, even if we just used the AZ vaccine to vaccinate the entire population, we would still probably be looking at less than 5 deaths from blood clots. As it stands and use of other vaccines, probably one death if even that.
The numbers don't stack up when you are looking at the risk/reward of the vaccine. I understand saying we have other vaccines available so no need to take risks but we seem to have decided to potentially delay the vaccination of the entire population to protect young people from a 1 in a 1 million chance of adverse side affect. Maybe there won't be a delay but the 15,000 today and thousands for the rest of the week seem to have just been told that we prefer the risk of you getting covid. I am struggling to see the logic here.
1 in 160,000.The fatal clot risk is 1 in a million but a lot more ppl will get the vaccine than covid.
You saw the word fatal in there?1 in 160,000.
If it was a loved one of yours that died, you would be understandably upset and in time very angry. Statistics don't take into account human suffering and while vaccinating people is of the utmost importance every precaution must be made to ensure its safely done.
What needs to be done is for manufacturers to find out what is causing this issue.
As I said earlier we need this vaccine but we also need it to be safe.
I really don't know how you could deduce that from what I typed.Using your distorted logic, are you saying that it acceptable that one person who has had their AZ vaccine cancelled since last weekend gets covid and dies because they weren't vaccinated in the time it takes for their vaccine to be rescheduled?
I really don't know how you could deduce that from what I typed.
I didn't deduce nor say anything of the kind, but you go ahead and think I did if you want if it makes you feel happier.Well how did you deduce that I was happy to see people die from the vaccine since you decide to tell me how I wouldn't be happy to see a loved one die? I don't want any loved one belonging to me or anyone else to die. From the vaccine or from covid. But what is the biggest risk to my loved ones with medical conditions or elderly? Going by the figures provided by the experts, it is Covid. I would have preferred by brother in law with CF to have his vaccine yesterday as planned but it was pulled. Doesn't mean I want him to die. As long as everyone is aware of the risks, I would prefer to take my chances with the vaccine as would most people I would suggest. Unless as I say, we simply don't know what the true impact is. In which case, we are still taking risks with peoples lives.
If it was a loved one of yours that died, you would be understandably upset and in time very angry.
But only to a point that their budget and resources permit.No one but there's still an obligation on the HSE to treat people.
That's a bit open ended.No one but there's still an obligation on the HSE to treat people.
I'll let you decipher it.So what was the point of this then?
J&J vaccine use paused in US. Similar reports to AZ issues...
Six recipients in the United States developed a rare disorder involving blood clots within about two weeks of vaccination, officials briefed on the decision said. All six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48. One woman died and a second woman in Nebraska has been hospitalized in critical condition, the officials said. Nearly seven million people in the United States have received Johnson & Johnson shots so far
Johnson & Johnson Vaccinations Paused After Rare Clotting Cases Emerge (Published 2021)
Federal health officials called for a halt in the use of the company’s coronavirus vaccine while they study serious illnesses that developed in six American women.www.nytimes.com
No there's not. If someone seeks treatment they may or may not treat them, there is no obligation.No one but there's still an obligation on the HSE to treat people.
No, but if they refuse to be vaccinated then they should be required to continue to wear a mask, socially distance, stay out of pubs and restaurants and generally remain in lockdown.No one should be forced to be vaccinated or be vaccinated with a certain vaccine.
Difficult for private enterprises and the government to police that - and health data is still private dataNo, but if they refuse to be vaccinated then they should be required to continue to wear a mask, socially distance, stay out of pubs and restaurants and generally remain in lockdown.
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