And its our elderly in care homes that are top of the list, the photo ops from Europe were either the prime minister of the Czech Republic or nurses who do need it but are easily transported from A to B .Won't it make a difference to those individuals who receive the vaccine today instead of next week?
The other 26 EU member states didn't decide to start vaccinating this weekend for "their own political reasons" as you put it but because they think that protecting some of their elderly from contracting Covid is worth sacrificing their health service employees' long weekend. The HSE's decision to delay by five days would seem to suggest that its priorities are different. Fair enough, but why defend the indefensible?Well today was meant to be "roll out" day across Europe, some countries went yesterday for probably their own political reasons.
We are now expected to roll out ours on Tuesday.
Personally I don't see the issue here, the vaccine is here and it will be rolled out within our infrastructure and the constraints that we know are present.
As for giving the HSE a free ride, they did what was needed to be done, and did it again within the constraints that are within the system.
This narrative of complaining constantly about this and that is tiresome, even with the vaccine in circulation deaths will still happen, cases will probably still be high with peaks and troughs in figures.
Also just because the vaccine is here isn't going to make much of a difference for a long time , we will still need to restrict our contacts and practice good hygiene.
And yet there were no photos of elderly people getting vaccinated, and those pictures were all over the news channels .The other 26 EU member states didn't decide to start vaccinating this weekend for "their own political reasons" as you put it but because they think that protecting some of their elderly from contracting Covid is worth sacrificing their health service employees' long weekend. The HSE's decision to delay by five days would seem to suggest that its priorities are different. Fair enough, but I don't understand why anyone would want to defend this.
The Czech PM got his not exactly a priority now is it.
Brendan the problem here is that if our cabinet took it first it would be called elitist.I would have thought that the cabinet should be the first to get it followed by the heads of the HSE.
We need the people in charge to be available and not to be restricted in their movements by Covid.
Of course it would not be politically popular, but it would be the right thing to do.
Brendan
The HSE in particular has enjoyed fairly uncritical coverage in the media throughout this pandemic.
What We Got Right - What THEY Got Wrong probably deserves a devoted thread to itself. The Irish Times article is just a filler in the holiday season where the writers get some valued time off.Hi Tom
A balanced report from Paul Cullen in the Irish Times
Ireland and Covid-19: What we got right, what we got wrong
2020 in review: Our lockdown strategy was blunt and short-term, but mostly it workedwww.irishtimes.com
This suggests that other countries have rushed ahead with their vaccination programme. Maybe they haven't and were prepared to go as soon as the vaccine arrived. Why weren't we prepared....we knew it was coming after all.Getting it done correctly is more important in my view that just getting it done.
Listening to Paul Reid on the radio yesterday he was saying that we will have about 10,000 vaccines a week. Leo Varadkar said on the Miriam show that there would be hundreds of thousands a week.The vaccine is coming to everyone. I would prefer the vaccination process to be orderly and well organised rather than rushed and botched.
Not sure where you are getting the 10,000 per week from?Listening to Paul Reid on the radio yesterday he was saying that we will have about 10,000 vaccines a week
Pfizer needs two shots. Is it 40,000 of the double shots or 20,000 of the double shots? If it is 20,000 of the double shots it is going to take forever to vaccinate 5,000,000 people.We got 10,000 and will get another 30,000 next week, and 40,000 per week thereafter.
That's just the Pfizer vaccine.
Well, 5 years at that rate. But that's the initial rate at which we're getting our allocation of the vaccine. There are other vaccines scheduled to become available very quickly. But it will be the back end of 2021 at the very earliest before there's a level of vaccination anywhere in Europe to achieve 'herd immunity'.Pfizer needs two shots. Is it 40,000 of the double shots or 20,000 of the double shots? If it is 20,000 of the double shots it is going to take forever to vaccinate 5,000,000 people.
Basic logistics we have care homes scattered all over Ireland, many in full lockdown, Europe in general has a much better system.This suggests that other countries have rushed ahead with their vaccination programme. Maybe they haven't and were prepared to go as soon as the vaccine arrived. Why weren't we prepared....we knew it was coming after all.
There will be other vaccines and Biontech will also be producing 500m in 2021....once plant is fitted out etc.Pfizer needs two shots. Is it 40,000 of the double shots or 20,000 of the double shots? If it is 20,000 of the double shots it is going to take forever to vaccinate 5,000,000 people.
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