Easing of restrictions from April 12th

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RTE reporting on easing of restrictions from 12th April to move to some sort of Level 4.
  • People can travel anywhere within their counties and more than 14,000 construction workers will get back building homes.
  • Two households can also meet outdoors, away from homes and gardens.

  • Two weeks later the numbers able to attend funerals will increase to 25.
  • At this stage too, sports like tennis and golf will return as will children's sports training.

  • A review of the possible easing of restrictions for the month of May is expected to take place before 4 May.
  • They include the re-opening of hairdressers and barbers, the phased return of non-essential retail and the full resumption of construction work.
 
  • Outdoor sports like tennis and golf, non-contact training for under 18s will be permitted from 26 April.
  • Heritage sites and State attractions will re-open on this date.
 
In this era of spin doctors , media handlers , fondlers and advisors WHY is information ALWAYS released / leaked before the Taoiseach makes his official speech to the nation . He is telling us nothing that hasnt already been announced. :rolleyes:
There is obviously some reason for this .
Can anyone explain.
Genuine question. I dont have an issue with the actual information. !
 
People who are fully vaccinated are now able to meet with other fully vaccinated people without masks and physical distancing.
 
odyssey06 said:
People who are fully vaccinated are now able to meet with other fully vaccinated people without masks and physical distancing.
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Not really since it is still limited to two households which I struggle to understand....
 
W200 said:
In this era of spin doctors , media handlers , fondlers and advisors WHY is information ALWAYS released / leaked before the Taoiseach makes his official speech to the nation . He is telling us nothing that hasnt already been announced. :rolleyes:
There is obviously some reason for this .
Can anyone explain.
Genuine question. I dont have an issue with the actual information. !
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Sssh. You are not allowed to leak about the leaks... tis one for shooting the breeze that one.
 
So GAA inter-county teams are allowed to return to training on the 19th of April but individual sports like golf where there is no interaction has to wait another week ? From my point of view another senseless arbitrary rule.
And still Mass not allowed officially till May most likely? Ireland came so far that were are again underground religious services happening right now - like under British rule...
 
It's obvious there is a bias towards the gaa being the game of the proletariat even though a big reason for the jump in cases at end of summer was the opening of the gaa. Drumgoon winning the county junior b final and yahoos being unable to contain themselves.
 
odyssey06 said:
People who are fully vaccinated are now able to meet with other fully vaccinated people without masks and physical distancing.
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Seems crazy that those for whom most has been sacrificed, by those who are least affected by the virus, will be able to resume their old life first.
 
Purple said:
Seems crazy that those for whom most has been sacrificed, by those who are least affected by the virus, will be able to resume their old life first.
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My parents didn't go beyond their front gate as per the advice in the first lockdown
When other people last summer went back to playing sports, staycations, eating outdoors, they did not - like many of their generation.
That generation has borne a heavy burden too, and the stress of severe consequences from the virus has hung over them for longer.

So it doesn't strike me as crazy at all.

ps I think opening the pubs for them might be a step too far in terms of social solidarity, but perhaps hairdressers? Would clear the backlog of people needing personal services quicker.
 
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odyssey06 said:
My parents didn't go beyond their front gate as per the advice in the first lockdown
When other people last summer went back to playing sports, staycations, eating outdoors, they did not - like many of their generation.
That generation has borne a heavy burden too, and the stress of severe consequences from the virus has hung over them for longer.

So it doesn't strike me as crazy at all.

ps I think opening the pubs for them might be a step too far in terms of social solidarity, but perhaps hairdressers? Would clear the backlog of people needing personal services quicker.
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Everyone sacrificed for those who were at risk. The greatest risk was age. The greatest impact was bourn by those who were at low/no risk from the virus.

I'm in my mid 40's, I consider my cohort to be least affected by the lockdown.

Children, teenagers and those in their 20's have been most affected by the lockdown. In many cases it will have life altering impacts on their education, employment and mental health. They are the ones who have lost their jobs. They are the ones who will have to repay the €30 billion. They are the ones who will be further excluded from the housing market when the oldies spend their €15 billion in savings, pushing up house prices ever further.

The idea that those who have lost their job and are now even further excluded from the life their parents took as a given should continue to suffer while those for whom they are suffering go back to normal is outrageous.
 
Purple said:
Everyone sacrificed for those who were at risk. The greatest risk was age. The greatest impact was bourn by those who were at low/no risk from the virus.
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Not going to continue this debate further as you don't engage with the points I made and it's a rabbit hole to the topic of the thread.
 
odyssey06 said:
Not going to continue this debate further when you ignore the points I made and it's a rabbit hole to the topic of the thread.
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I'm not ignoring the points you've made. My parents are in the same boat.

They are not seeing their business collapse. They are not at risk of losing their home. They didn't spend months working from home in a small apartment while trying to entertain/home school young kids.
They pottered around their house and missed their grandchildren and didn't go to restaurants two or three times a week.
They do recognise that other people have made far greater sacrifices than they did and that they made those sacrifices for my parents and people like them.
 
At least we are spending 17m of taxpayers money on creating a continental style outdoor dining country.......

I believe, there are also talks about moving Ireland a bit further South as part of the package....
 
Purple said:
Seems crazy that those for whom most has been sacrificed, by those who are least affected by the virus, will be able to resume their old life first.
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Seems logical to let people that are vaccinated to start getting back to some normality, isn't that the point of the vaccination?
 
Bobbyg said:
Seems logical to let people that are vaccinated to start getting back to some normality, isn't that the point of the vaccination?
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You could also say it was logical to let the young and the economic life of country to continue at a much higher level while sheltering the old and vulnerable. However that was not the decision that was made, Ireland chose to close everything down much more drastically and longer than other countries. This was for "social solidarity " and "we're all in this together " but as soon as the old are vaccinated social solidarity goes out the window
 
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joe sod said:
It's obvious there is a bias towards the gaa being the game of the proletariat even though a big reason for the jump in cases at end of summer was the opening of the gaa. Drumgoon winning the county junior b final and yahoos being unable to contain themselves.
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I'm no particular fan of the GAA and how the clubs managed the last lockdown - but in fairness what they are allowing is the inter-county training rather than local club training. The equivalent of elite teams in Rugby & Football.

So the Junior B's and yahoos don't get to not contain themselves (yet)
 
joe sod said:
You could also say it was logical to let the young and the economic life of country to continue at a much higher level while sheltering the old and vulnerable. However that was not the decision that was made, Ireland chose to close everything down much more drastically and longer than other countries. This was for "social solidarity " and "we're all in this together " but as soon as the old are vaccinated social solidarity goes out the window
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I agree but I think hospital capacity dictated what we could and couldn't do but I don't think it makes sense now to say we need to wait until everyone is vaccinated to open up again. I am curious to know how they are going to monitor who is vaccinated and who is not
 
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