Would you move back to Ireland?

As a Non-national working in Ireland, I would like to have my view of Ireland. I will leave Ireland soon for the following reasons:

1. Overpriced property
2. Poor public transport
3. Poor health system
4. Lower salary for the same job compare to US, UK and Australia etc
5. Dublin is not a safe city( Police are useless in this country, I was attacked a few times by the Irish kids at night and my rented home at D6W got stolen)
6. Irish people are not friendly to colored people. (I can feel it at pub/shopping)
 
As a Non-national working in Ireland, I would like to add my view of Ireland. I will leave Ireland soon or later for the following reasons:

1. Overpriced property
2. Poor public transport
3. Poor health system
4. Lower salary for the same job compare to US, UK and Australia etc
5. Dublin is not a safe city( Police are useless in this country, I was attacked a few times by the Irish kids at night and my rented house at D6W got stolen)
6. Irish people are not friendly to colored people. (I will feel it and pub or at shopping)

if everything is so bad, why are you living here? I don't mean that in a smart way, but you seem to be having a pretty terrible time here and not to like the place, so I'm intrigued as to why you would want to stay?
 
if everything is so bad, why are you living here? I don't mean that in a smart way, but you seem to be having a pretty terrible time here and not to like the place, so I'm intrigued as to why you would want to stay?

I said I would leave soon. Maybe Jan next year to UK or Australia.
 
i am not surprised you are leaving, so would I if my whole house was stolen !!!

"my rented house at D6W got stolen"

Have you put up pictures of it in the neighbourhood to see if anyone has seen it?
 
Irish people think they live in the center of universe. In fact, it is not the case. I would laugh at this everytime, when some radio presenters say ‘Now we are live at Dublin, the best city in the world’ . I am sure you also hear it when you are driving. ;)
 
No more anti-irish and probably less so than the anglo-phobia that is prevalent in the Irish media.

I think it's more of an Irish inferiority complex. Just look at anyone with new money - they talk funny, send their kids to protestant schools, all of a sudden have a new interest in polo playing/shooting/fox-hunting, want to live alongside old money and drop the kids off to French lessons in their Range Rovers/Bentleys/Aston Martins/Jaguars.

When I'm down around Waterford, I often see Lord Waterford's son about Carrick-on-Suir. He's a classy guy - mannerly, soft-spoken, well-educated and drives an old pre-2000 Nissan Primera. He doesn't need to announce to the world that he's got a couple of thousand acres.

The Irish new money model themselves on the British gentry (but without the culture, the class nor the taste) and it's akin to the way the black rapper feels the need to bling-bling up the latest car which was probably designed by a white man.

What was wrong with being a nation of saints, scholars, literarys and hard-workers? We're now a nation of hethons, ignorami, illiterates and carousers.

AFAIC, we've been swept away in a funny sort of globalised, self-centred, individualistic culture with strong British (and American) influence. You'll see the kind of people I'm talking about in places like: Dundrum Shopping Centre, Cafe en Seine, Ron Blacks, The Odeon, Brown Thomas, etc. But maybe this is just the way of the brave new world we live in...
 
Irish people think they live in the center of universal. In fact, it is not the case. I would laugh at this everytime, when some radio presenters say ‘Now we are live at Dublin, the best city in the world’ . I am sure you also hear it when you are driving. ;)


ah, they just do that to annoy you. Sure everyone knows Cork is the centre of the universe!
 
You'll see the kind of people I'm talking about in places like: Dundrum Shopping Centre, Cafe en Seine, Ron Blacks, The Odeon, Brown Thomas, etc. But maybe this is just the way of the brave new world we live in...

But these places are all in Dublin. Aren't boggers the same as they always were?

Is it just Dubliners (or probably more specifically south-siders) that are "globalised, self-centred, individualistic culture with strong British (and American) influence"?

And weren't they always like that, i.e. the term "west-Brits"?
 
I would laugh at this everytime, when some radio presenters say ‘Now we are live at Dublin, the best city in the world’ . I am sure you also hear it when you are driving. ;)

You'll find this attitude wherever you go, anywhere in the world. It's not just an Irish thing. You go to New York and you'll find the same thing. My favourite was the NY1 news channel which had 30seconds news every hour on "the world outside New York" and they talked about what was happening across the river in Jersey.
 
I think it's more of an Irish inferiority complex. Just look at anyone with new money - they talk funny, send their kids to protestant schools, all of a sudden have a new interest in polo playing/shooting/fox-hunting, want to live alongside old money and drop the kids of to French lessons in their Range Rovers/Bentleys/Aston Martins/Jaguars.

The Irish new money model themselves on the British gentry (but without the culture, the class nor the taste) and it's akin to the way the black rapper feels the need to bling-bling up the latest car which was probably designed by a white man.

AFAIC, we've been swept away in a funny sort of globalised, self-centred, individualistic culture with strong British (and American) influence. You'll see the kind of people I'm talking about in places like: Dundrum Shopping Centre, Cafe en Seine, Ron Blacks, The Odeon, Brown Thomas, etc. But maybe this is just the way of the brave new world we live in...

I know exactly what you mean. It sure is an inferiority complex..............
 
You'll see the kind of people I'm talking about in places like: Dundrum Shopping Centre, Cafe en Seine, Ron Blacks, The Odeon, Brown Thomas, etc. But maybe this is just the way of the brave new world we live in...[/quote]


Sorry, but why go there then, if you so despise them? Why don't you go somewhere more cultural or saintly or scholarly, if that is what you're after?
There are plenty of options - go see a play, walk in the country, read a great book, watch a foreign movie...



By the way, what are hethons and literarys? Are you just trying to prove a point about us being a nation of illiterates?
 
Ive lived away on and off for the last seven years, nearly 2 years in britain, year in australia, year in canada. I think overall Ireland is still way better than britain, on a par with canada, but australia is the best of all. I would never choose britain over ireland at the moment i found the people there cold and unfriendly that was my enduring image of it. Canada was nice and the people were friendly although I think Ireland has a better social life. However not easy to emigrate there due to the points system. However australia seems to have it all in my opinion, friendly people, inexpensive, great weather and great social life although emigration also not easy. I hope ireland does not turn into a mini britain I think that would be bad unless Britain improves an awful lot.
 
You'll find this attitude wherever you go, anywhere in the world. It's not just an Irish thing. You go to New York and you'll find the same thing. My favourite was the NY1 news channel which had 30seconds news every hour on "the world outside New York" and they talked about what was happening across the river in Jersey.

I don't think so. As a non-national also, I found appalling the poor coverage international news get here. Unless one or more irish citizen are killed somewhere outside the country, when then you might get something. I can't tell you what are the news like now back at home, have been gone for 4 years, so things might have change, but it used to be first international news (mainly US, any war around the world, etc etc) National (if in a local tv station, that would include local news, that might not make it to the national stations), and then sports (which gets to much attention for my liking anyway...as there are specialise programs for that)
I remembered being home when the money that was stolen in NI was found out in Cork, and learnt about it from the newspapers at home.....same when Dolores Mcnamara won the Euromillions, family were asking if BF family new her, mind you anything like that happening outside Ireland, you wouldn't know.
Some news are only reported, as the recent train accident in Valencia, because it was thought to be a terrorist attack, otherwise it wouldn't have been mention.
Going back to topic, I live in Ireland, and while people keep asking us why don't we move back to "sunny spain", I intend to stay here until things get a bit better (work and housing wise) back home. There is pro's and con's to everything, but Spain is not that "sunny", and besides,it doesn't matter if you don't have money or time to enjoy it.
 
I don't think so. As a non-national also, I found appalling the poor coverage international news get here. .

This statement is just proving my point, isn't it? By believing that you/we're the centre of the universe, we by extent, don't consider anything happening outside the country as being relevant.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing the point about international news coverage, but I don't think it supports what I think is your argument.
 
The Irish new money model themselves on the British gentry (but without the culture, the class nor the taste) and it's akin to the way the black rapper feels the need to bling-bling up the latest car which was probably designed by a white man.
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I disagree, but that may be because my "host" country when I emigrated was USA. Irish people today ARE more American than the Americans themselves.
 
Sorry, but why go there then, if you so despise them?
Call it a sociological case study - I'm quite serious! I have gone to observe such people in their habitat...

Why don't you go somewhere more cultural or saintly or scholarly, if that is what you're after?
Why should I move? Obviously, there are going to be some pretty cool people in Ireland, but the generic ones, the ones who have bought into the consumerist's dream, the ones who have 5 credit cards and think that cold-looking resteraunts with aluminium and UV lighting are classy joints, the ones who spend their saturday afternoons 'in town' going around the shops - I depise such shallow, materialistic and uncultivated people. God love them though, they're probably so busy slaving away on the corportate ladder that they don't get the time, nor the inclination to think or dream about anything other than the next pair of shoes or the forthcoming boozy weekend. They annoy me, and I wish they'd go away - a good recession should be enough to restore a bit of decorum. Too often I find I'm about town ejoying a coffee and a cigarette, and some group of idiots will sit near me and start spouting rubbish about soccer or celebreties or some other generic topic.

There are plenty of options - go see a play, walk in the country, read a great book, watch a foreign movie...
How many people actually do this do you think? I reckon most people would prefer to see some stupid hollywood comedy, read a Dan Brown book/some other airport 'classic', walk through Jervis Street shopping centre or to go along to some silly music festival and be herded around like a cow.

By the way, what are hethons and literarys? Are you just trying to prove a point about us being a nation of illiterates?
Oh go and call the spelling police would you?
 
Eh, how can you put the Daily Telegraph in the same sentence as the Daily Mail?
The Tele has long been the most reviled newspaper by northern nationalists (The Mail obviously runs it close). In fact several acquaintances of mine from of a unionist persuasion used to call it "The Daily Orange".

I said I would leave soon. Maybe Jan next year to UK or Australia
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You might want to revise that Australia move, if it's racism you're looking to avoid. I know the irish aren't great on it, but we're not bad either.
 
i would say that the Irish newly-moneyed types model themselves less on the British gentry and more on the British social equivalent - posh'n'becks and Jordan & Peter spring to mind.
 
and some group of idiots will sit near me and start spouting rubbish about soccer

How dare they! The cheek of them!

Lets kill them all by exhaling cigarette smoke on them, cause that's the non-shallow and cultivated thing to do.
 
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