Tomodinhio
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Too many politicans are publicians and cigarette companies are, I presume, generous to political parties at election time so the answer is? Never
Were the banned drugs addictive? BZP has a very low addiction rate, 2% or something. (Anyone that takes BZP more than once must be insane anyway!). I just hope the new drugs they develope will not be as addictive or destroying as the likes of crystal meyth or heroine.
Were the banned drugs addictive? BZP has a very low addiction rate, 2% or something. (Anyone that takes BZP more than once must be insane anyway!)
You've just highlighted a problem here. This is exactly what will happen. The labs will create more of these drugs, and when they get made illegal, the whole process starts again. There are a huge number of various chemical compounds to mess about with. The less history that a drug has, the less information we have about its effects.No i dont think they where addictive, but definatly messed you up big time. But whos to say what these people develope next wont be highly addictive and destructive. I mean lets be honest with ourselves I dont think these people give a damn what health affects their drugs have on people as long as they buy them.
Isn't it better to do your research and if you are happy with the results then legalise it? It makes sense to only allow a product onto the market if the product is deemed safe in moderation. If these highs are shown to be safe in moderation then there is a case, but there is too little known yet. If we have legal highs are we not treating our kids as guinea pigs?You've just highlighted a problem here. This is exactly what will happen. The labs will create more of these drugs, and when they get made illegal, the whole process starts again. There are a huge number of various chemical compounds to mess about with. The less history that a drug has, the less information we have about its effects.
Banning these drugs are obviously not the solution. What a pitty that those that make the decisions don't do some research, and instead pander to the media.
Why then is tobacco and alcohol legal? We all know that smoking definitely kills.Isn't it better to do your research and if you are happy with the results then legalise it? It makes sense to only allow a product onto the market if the product is deemed safe in moderation.
Why ban head shop drugs, but not drugs that we know for definite are dangerous, are addictive and have been marketed towards young people for decades?
I can see where your coming from, but then why was there a smoking ban brought in. This must of really ****ed of the publicians and cigarette companies. Also the hugh amount of tax placed on these items hardly serves the publicians and cigarette companies. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. Alcohol and tobacco are socially acceptable ways of unwinding and relaxing, tobacco is currently losing its soical acceptance. Legals Highs or Highs of any kind are not tollerated by society in general, maybe in time this will change just like our attitudes to tobacco are changing.
However i am sure new drugs are being developed by whoever supplies the head stores and the problem will soon be back. I just hope the new drugs they develope will not be as addictive or destroying as the likes of crystal meyth or heroine.
I'n not complaining about headshops being put out of busineess, just that I believe alcohol does much more damage to society than any of these legal highs. Then, when these highs are banned we have people complaining that those addicted are have nowhere to go and demanding treatment be provided!
MrMan - no drug can be deemed 100% safe. What does 'moderation' mean?
Why then is tobacco and alcohol legal? We all know that smoking definitely kills.
Why ban head shop drugs, but not drugs that we know for definite are dangerous, are addictive and have been marketed towards young people for decades?
MrMan - no drug can be deemed 100% safe. What does 'moderation' mean?
Why then is tobacco and alcohol legal? We all know that smoking definitely kills.
Why ban head shop drugs, but not drugs that we know for definite are dangerous, are addictive and have been marketed towards young people for decades?
What is your point here? You are proposing to ban alcohol and tobacco as 'no drug in 100% safe' and 'smoking definitely kills'.
What is your point here? You are proposing to ban alcohol and tobacco as 'no drug in 100% safe' and 'smoking definitely kills'. Following on that logic, transport should be banned as our roads/rail/airspace are 'dangerous'. Neither should we cross the road or go tow ork for our own health and safety. And if smoking definitely kills, we should lso avoid hospitals in case we get MRSA which 'definitely' kills too! We should ban newspapers and television so that our young people cannot be targetted by the evil marketing people!
This is a strawman and makes no logical sense. Transport is not an addictive substance, nor is crossing the road, going to work, attending hospitals, newspapers or television.
None of these comparisons relate to the point that umop3p!sdn actually raised.
Latrade has put it very succintly - alcohol and tobacco are legal, drugs and now head shop substances are not - why?
If there is a criteria for criminalising these products then why is it not being applied to other addictive substances?
There cannot possibly be any long term studies with reliable data available re the effects of the head shop substances - they simply have not been around long enough.
What is the criteria that has been applied in this case, and why is that criteria limited to head shop substances?
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The caveat is we can't trust everyone to be sensible about using them and that's a social taboo we have to work on. Is getting so stoned you can't move from the couch or can't stop laughing or eating any less problematic on health and society than binge drinking?
And therin lies the reason why they shouldn't be legalised yet.
At least is you are too stoned to get up off the couch or can't stop laughing the only person you hurting, apart from your family, is yourself. You're not likely to be able to kick someone head in in that state. With alcohol it seems to be is a nightly event
However, with cannibis, if it were legalised we'd have the increased tax intake from the duty plus increased sales in munchies at 3 am which in turn would boost retail and those retailers that are opne 24hrs in turn meaning they have to employ mor staff working nights which would inturn give people more money to spend due to all the overtime.
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