The Lucy Letby Case

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I've taken a keen interest in this case for the past few months - partly because I have a bit more time on my hands and partly due to the fact that I have a close family member working in a broadly similar healthcare role (i.e caring for sometimes very sick children and babies.)

To summarize very briefly: this young woman was convicted and jailed for life for murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven more. She's been described as "Britain's Worst Baby Killer" and is condemned to die in prison.

The case against her was entirely based on circumstantial "evidence," statistical probability - and a supposed "confession." No-one saw her doing anything wrong and in fact the original post-mortems concluded that the babies had died of natural causes due to their various serious conditions etc.

There were doubts about the evidence and the way the case was presented (and defended) right from the start. More recently growing numbers of senior experienced medical and other experts have been expressing their astonishment and disbelief at what has since been revealed.

(She had an appeal soundly rejected - and indeed was convicted of a further murder subsequent to her original conviction.)

She has taken on a new barrister who is compiling a case for an appeal/review - which could take years to conclude.

Meanwhile there've been scores of articles written in recent months and an inquiry is underway, albeit based on the clear assumption that this case is closed and what "lessons can be learned" etc.

I've always had doubts about this case but yesterday's revelations in The Guardian have firmly convinced me that this is highly likely to be a massive miscarriage of justice. Even worse, it looks like it could involve a cover-up and possibly even a conspiracy among some of the Hospital staff to scapegoat her for a litany of their own failings.


Some more articles below:



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To be honest, less interest because it's a British case.

But it is every health worker's nightmare, that they will be accused of something that happens due to short-staffing. There's unbelievable pressure to work beyond your competence or abilities.

I used work in general hospitals (a long time ago, moved over to a different healthcare sector years ago) and what I see from relatives in hospital is appalling communication. Ask anyone what the plan is and the constant answer in a major Dublin teaching hospital is "I don't know, I'm only covering for a meal break/the day". Permanent staff don't seem much different. I have had to ask them to look at the notes, please - and get quizzed as to whether I'm a healthcare worker. That's irrelevant, I'm trying to find out what is going on for my vulnerable relative who cannot take in the information they're given, never mind relay it to their family.

Sorry have gone right off the point - but I'm not entirely convinced of Letby's guilt either.
 
In a case like this where there appears to be a bit of a groundswell of doubt about her conviction, this is indeed disappointing news.

Thankfully the death penalty has been removed in UK, there are plenty who were proven innocent years and decades after being locked up.
 
To be honest, less interest because it's a British case.

But it is every health worker's nightmare, that they will be accused of something that happens due to short-staffing. There's unbelievable pressure to work beyond your competence or abilities.

I used work in general hospitals (a long time ago, moved over to a different healthcare sector years ago) and what I see from relatives in hospital is appalling communication. Ask anyone what the plan is and the constant answer in a major Dublin teaching hospital is "I don't know, I'm only covering for a meal break/the day". Permanent staff don't seem much different. I have had to ask them to look at the notes, please - and get quizzed as to whether I'm a healthcare worker. That's irrelevant, I'm trying to find out what is going on for my vulnerable relative who cannot take in the information they're given, never mind relay it to their family.

Sorry have gone right off the point - but I'm not entirely convinced of Letby's guilt either.
That's a symptom of a bad system with bad processes and procedures, not under staffing. Any system which relies on employees holding information in their head is a bad system. It's more than 30 years since all that sort of information could be digitised and accesses anywhere in any competently organised and run institution. The solution to organisational and institutional incompetence is not more people.
 
"The only thing worse than training staff and having them leave is not training them and having them stay,’

Henry Ford
 
And that would appear to be that.


Not quite true. This appeal related to a very specific issue - her new barrister is preparing a case for a review. If the Judicial system is so convinced of the safety of her conviction they should have no problem in allowing this review. If they refuse the story will continue to grow....



Davis said their ruling related only to Letby’s contention that her retrial should not have been allowed to go ahead and that it was not a judgment on the wide-ranging critique of her convictions. “This application related to a narrow legal issue,” he said. “Nothing we have said can contribute to any debate about the wider case against Lucy Letby.”

Her new barrister, Mark McDonald, is preparing to ask for a wide-ranging review of the convictions by the Criminal Cases Review Commission
 
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More stuff in the papers today. I simply fail to see how this conviction is safe and "beyond all reasonable doubt." There are more doubts than certainties here (and very few of the latter it seems.)



However, Dr Richard Taylor, an independent British Canadian neonatologist, said that it would only take the baby to turn its head, or thrust out its tongue, for the tube to come out.

“The issue with very small babies is that movement only has to be very small so if you are out by one centimetre then suddenly the baby is extubated,” he said.

“Accidental extubation is extremely common. We have all seen it before.”

A paper by Newcastle University in 2016 found that dislodged breathing tubes were common in premature babies – happening an average of six times for infants born at 25 weeks and under, and twice for pre-term babies above 25 weeks gestation.

After being sentenced, Letby, of Hereford, called out: “I’m innocent,” as dock officers led her away.

Since the case concluded, many doctors, scientists and statisticians have come forward to question evidence presented to, and kept from, the jury. It has emerged that the neonatal unit was understaffed with consultants making two rounds a week.

It also suffered from dangerous infectious outbreaks and was described by the parents of the babies as chaotic.

The unit at the Countess of Chester was a Level 2 unit, and was only supposed to care for babies more than 27 weeks gestation, however Baby K was born at 25 weeks weighing just over 1.5lbs.
 
I've looked at this case in some detail.

It's not utterly impossible that she attempted to kill multiple babies using multiple methods. But the direct evidence that she did is very thin. The theories of each attempt have big question marks around them and her own defence team seems to have been very poor, calling her to the stand herself instead of expert witnesses.

So it's orders of magnitude more likely that the deaths were some combination of statistical fluke (look up the Law of Small Numbers) and a poor standard of care at the hospital.

Either way her conviction is unsafe.



Don't forget the poor parents as well. They've all either lost a child in infancy or come very close, and are now duped into thinking that someone was actively trying to kill them.
 
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I agree @Dr Strangelove, unimaginable pain for the parents to hear their chldrens' deaths discussed as merely statistical probabilities, matters of evil intent, or inadequate or improper medical care. They lose their children over and over again with the discussions of their loss and the probable causes in public.

How to seek to ensure justice is done versus allowing the parents to grieve privately and without prolonging their agony?
 
I'd be baffled by the notion that the safety of the conviction shouldn't be questioned because it might upset the parents of the deceased children. Surely they wouldn't want someone who might be innocent locked up for life and condemned to die there? In that regard I thought the statement by Justice Thirlwall at the start of the enquiry was disgraceful. (“All of this noise has caused additional enormous stress for the parents who have suffered far too much." she said.)

It's more than "noise" - and it's going to get a lot louder.

Anyway, there were more stories over the weekend - including this one in the New York Times on Friday which summarised the key questions being raised in detail:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/world/europe/lucy-letby-uk-

5 Key Questions Hanging Over the Lucy Letby ‘Killer Nurse’ Case​

Ms. Letby, a neonatal nurse in England, was convicted of murdering seven babies last year. But a growing number of experts have raised concerns about the evidence.

Ms. Letby, 34, was handed https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cljyn2e7l3yo (15 mandatory life sentences). But in the months since, a growing number of experts have suggested that the evidence used to convict her was flawed. Serious questions were first raised in a https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it (13,000-word New Yorker) article in May. Since then, dozens of statisticians and medical experts have expressed concerns.
Ms. Letby has always maintained her innocence. In May, her request to appeal her original murder convictions was denied. She was separately https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/europe/lucy-letby-nurse-attempted-murder.html (convicted in July in a retrial) of one count of attempted murder, and on Thursday judges will consider her right to appeal that ruling.

Here’s what to know about the main concerns raised about Ms. Letby’s convictions.

Statistics were misused, many experts say.​

After Ms. Letby was found guilty last year, Britain’s health secretary announced a public inquiry — an official investigation conducted by a judge, with hearings in public — to discover how a serial killer could get away with her crimes for so long. That began last month in Liverpool and is expected to continue until early next year.
But in July, 24 experts in statistics, forensic science and neonatology wrote to the British government, https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/29/world/europe/lucy-letby-innocent-inquiry-nurse-babies.html (raising concerns) over the way statistics and medical evidence were used in the case and calling for the inquiry to conduct “a broader examination of potential factors contributing to the increased neonatal deaths, without the presumption of criminal intent.”
Jane Hutton, a professor of statistics at the University of Warwick, is one of the people who signed the letter. In an interview, she described several concerns with the case, including that a number of baby deaths took place on the unit when Ms. Letby was not present, but that these had been excluded from the prosecution’s analysis.
“You’re using data that’s explicitly not fit for purpose,” Professor Hutton said. She and other statistical experts have criticized a diagram, created by the police, which the prosecution presented as a key piece of evidence. It showed which nurses were on shift on the days that 24 babies died or collapsed. An “x” showed Ms. Letby’s presence on every shift.
But the diagram does not account for all deaths or sudden deteriorations in babies’ condition in the unit at the time, only those that the authorities already believed Ms. Letby was involved in, creating a skewed sense of her presumed guilt, statisticians say. The police and prosecutors declined to respond to a request for comment on the table.

Nobody ever witnessed Ms. Letby harming a baby, and the case against her was circumstantial. At trial, her lawyer argued that she was being scapegoated for “https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/30/lucy-letby-an-obvious-target-to-blame-at-hospital-that-failed-babies-court-told (serial failures of care)” resulting from chronic understaffing.
Britain’s Royal Statistical Society, a professional association, warned the inquiry in a letter last year that “it is far from straightforward to draw conclusions from suspicious clusters of deaths in a hospital setting,” and referred to a report it published in 2022 titled “Healthcare serial killer or coincidence?”

Doubts have emerged over the ‘air embolism’ evidence.​

Some of the babies who died showed unusual skin discoloration. During the trial, the prosecution’s lead expert witness, a retired pediatrician named Dr. Dewi Evans, argued that this was a sign of an “air embolism” in which one or more air bubbles blocks blood flow. The prosecution argued that Ms. Letby had injected seven babies with air, which in some cases proved fatal.

Dr. Evans said he had no direct experience of a patient suffering an air embolus, but he relied on academic research, including a 1989 paper co-written by Dr. Shoo Lee, a Canadian neonatologist, which detailed cases of air embolism in babies who exhibited skin discoloration.
The prosecution argued that the babies who died or deteriorated had similar patterns on their skin.
However, during Ms. Letby’s appeal application, Dr. Lee disagreed with this analysis and said that none of the babies in the trial should have been diagnosed with air embolism. The diagnosis is “a very rare and specific condition and should not be diagnosed by excluding other causes of death or collapse and concluding that it must be a case of air embolus because nothing else could be found,” he said.

Insulin poisoning evidence has been questioned by clinical experts.​

Ms. Letby was found guilty of attempting to murder two babies whose blood sugar levels unexpectedly dropped.
Tests suggested the babies had high levels of insulin but only a negligible amount of C-peptide, a substance detected when insulin is produced by the body. The prosecution argued the insulin must therefore have been administered externally.
There was no direct evidence that Ms. Letby gave the babies insulin, but the prosecution suggested she had tried to poison them by adding it to their nutritional feeds.
In court, Ms. Letby was asked whether she agreed that artificial insulin had been given to the babies, given the test results, and she agreed it must have been. But, she added, “how or who I can’t comment on, only that it wasn’t me.”
But the tests — known as immunoassays — are not reliable enough to be used as evidence in court, multiple experts have said. The Royal Liverpool Hospital laboratory where the tests were done warns in its online guidance that they are https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://pathlabs.rlbuht.nhs.uk/insulin.pdf (“not suitable”) to investigate low blood sugar created by an insulin injection. If that is suspected, the samples should be analyzed elsewhere, it says. But both babies recovered, so their samples were never referred anywhere else.

Prof. Alan Wayne Jones, a forensic toxicology expert, told https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/lucy-letby-innocent-guilty-evidence-nurse-g9w68wdgd (The Times of London), “Positive immunoassay results are not sufficient as binding toxicological evidence of foul play in a criminal prosecution for murder.”
Dr. Adel Ismail, the former head of a National Health Service pathology lab, https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/18/insulin-tests-convict-letby-cannot-be-relied-upon/ (told The Daily Telegraph), “Of all the technologies we use in the lab for measurements, the one with the highest error rate is the immunoassay.”

Psychologists have questions about a note that was treated as a confession.​

During the trial, the jury was shown Post-it notes that were densely covered in Ms. Letby’s handwriting. The prosecution highlighted the phrases, “I am evil I did this” and “I killed them on purpose because I am not good enough to care for them.” But on the same piece of paper, Ms. Letby had also written, “I haven’t done anything wrong,” “Why me,” “Police investigation slander discrimination victimisation,” and “help me.”
https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/i-am-evil-i-did-this-lucy-letbys-so-called-confessions-were-written-on-advice-of-counsellors (The Guardian) reported last month that the notes were the result of counseling sessions in which Ms. Letby was advised to write down her feelings as a way of coping with extreme stress after she came under suspicion. David Wilson, a professor of criminology at Birmingham City University, told The Guardian that the notes “were meaningless as evidence.”
When the police asked Ms. Letby, after her arrest, why she had written “I am evil I did this,” she told them that she had worried that she might have hurt the babies “without knowing.” “I was blaming myself, but not because I’d done something,” she said, in a transcript that was read out https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/apr/27/lucy-letby-told-police-i-didnt-kill-them-on-purpose-court-hears (during her trial).

There were longstanding concerns about the neonatal unit.​

Beneath the gilded vault ceiling of Liverpool Town Hall earlier this month, a judge and a roomful of journalists and lawyers at the public inquiry heard harrowing testimony about conditions in the neonatal unit where Ms. Letby worked.
One senior doctor, whose identity is protected by a court order, agreed with another doctor’s assessment that by January 2016 the unit was “almost at breaking point” because of staffing shortages.
An official regulator assessed the hospital in February 2016 and warned that nurse staffing levels did not meet recommended standards, and said this had been recorded as a “high risk” factor for the unit since 2010. The regulator also found the unit lacked the space and resources to care for babies requiring strict infection control.
A separate independent https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.chesterstandard.co.uk/news/15978747.no-single-cause-identified-for-rise-in-baby-deaths-at-countess-of-chester-hospital/ (report in 2016 by The Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health) found that staffing was “inadequate” to care for the sickest babies, and said there had been “higher activity and lower admission birth weight than average during the period corresponding to an increase in mortality.”
In addition, risk reports from the hospital that were https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/03/countess-of-chester-hospital-lucy-letby-bacteria-outbreak/ (leaked to The Daily Telegraph) and the BBC this year showed that the bacterium Pseudomonas aeruginosa, which killed three babies in a https://archive.is/o/dWcIU/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/us/babies-bacterial-infection-pennsylvania.html (Pennsylvania hospital in 2019) and is highly dangerous to premature infants, was present in water taps in the neonatal unit in early 2015.

As deaths on the unit increased, a group of doctors became convinced of Ms. Letby’s involvement, and the hospital reached out to the police.
Professor Hutton, the statistician, believes the hospital should have first reported the deaths to Britain’s Health Security Agency, which is responsible for protection against infectious diseases, rather than starting from the assumption that a crime had been committed.
“If you’ve got a cluster of deaths in a health care setting, in my view, you should not be taking that to the police, because then you’re presuming guilt,” she said.
Epidemiologists who specialize in assessing clusters of deaths should have made an initial assessment, she said: “We are all prone to bias, and what we want to do is minimize the risk of bias.”
 
Revealed: Lucy Letby was not on duty when many babies went downhill fastest, new audit finds
The Thirlwall Inquiry is going to proceed further in an increasingly farcical manner as more and more pieces of evidence point toward Letby's innocence.

If the UK government has any sense they should bring the inquiry to a premature close.
 
This has to be the strangest enquiry I've seen....more evidence coming out of it than from the original trial.

Few of the participants in the whole sorry saga come out of it looking good.

(I'm more and more convinced she'll be released and that the conviction will be deemed "unsafe" at the very least.)


Ms Weatherley told the inquiry that before the grievance hearing started she was asked by Dee Appleton-Cairns, the deputy director of human resources at the Countess, what she thought of the accusations against Letby.

Ms Weatherley said she told Ms Appleton-Cairns she thought it was a “witch-hunt” and added that Ms Appleton-Cairns, who was also on the grievance panel, replied: “We all think the same, it’s so sad.”

The inquiry also heard that in a police interview about the case, Ms Weatherly said she’d heard a rumour that Letby had rebuffed “physical advances" from one of the consultants.

She told a detective: "It was someone that told me that, I can't remember who it was when I was there but there was a rumour."
 
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The Thirlwall Inquiry terms of reference are interesting, own emphasis below:

B. The conduct of those working at the Countess of Chester Hospital, including the board, managers, doctors, nurses and midwives with regard to the actions of Lucy Letby while she was employed there as a neonatal nurse and subsequently, including:

(i) whether suspicions should have been raised earlier, whether Lucy Letby should have been suspended earlier and whether the police and other external bodies should have been informed sooner of suspicions about her

(ii) the responses to concerns raised about Lucy Letby from those with management responsibilities within the trust

(iii) whether the trust’s culture, management and governance structures and processes contributed to the failure to protect babies from Lucy Letby

C. The effectiveness of NHS management and governance structures and processes, external scrutiny and professional regulation in keeping babies in hospital safe and well looked after, whether changes are necessary and, if so, what they should be, including how accountability of senior managers should be strengthened. This section will include a consideration of NHS culture.

The terms or reference seem designed to investigate the performance of managers and the management system.

But it's becoming increasingly clear that:
a) doctors were the ones who were equipped to notice a serial killer. They were the ones who encountered her in a clinical setting, not hospital managers;
b) if they were convinced Letby was a serial killer, they took it to the police very late.
 
I'd be baffled by the notion that the safety of the conviction shouldn't be questioned because it might upset the parents of the deceased children. Surely they wouldn't want someone who might be innocent locked up for life and condemned to die there? In that regard I thought the statement by Justice Thirlwall at the start of the enquiry was disgraceful. (“All of this noise has caused additional enormous stress for the parents who have suffered far too much." she said.)
I absolutely agree and would have to question the moral compass of those who think that a potentially innocent woman be left in prison to avoid distress to the families who's loss is irreplaceable.

I would hate to think that an innocent person was jailed for any crime committed against me.
 
At the risk of repeating myself - this woman should be released immediately pending a full review of the case & conviction. Have read the latest Private Eye investigation, which is damming (it'll be available online eventually.) There's also a lot of leaking going on - presumably from interested parties who were involved in the case too afraid to go public...


A leaked copy of Dr Hawdon’s report – which was never seen by the jury in the original trial – showed she thought 13 of the 17 deaths and collapses could be explained. The consultant made several recommendations, including that out-of-hours attendance by consultants should be reviewed, and that staff should be given further help with intubating babies and the timely administration of antibiotics.

Giving evidence at the Thirlwall Inquiry on Monday, Claire McLaughlan, a lay reviewer for the RCPCH, said she believed allegations against Letby were “not based on fact” and seemed to be the personal opinion of Dr Stephen Breary a consultant on the ward.
In a statement read to the hearing, she said: “In my opinion, this was the personal view, feelings, interpretation, of one person regarding Miss Letby. It was not based on fact; it was uncorroborated.

“Even now I would not consider his view as objective or impartial, as he was too involved, too close to the situation and had a conflict of interest.”
Giving evidence, she added: “They gave us a mixed picture because they told us in one breath about their concerns and the allegations they were making but in the next breath they were telling us what a good nurse she was.
 
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