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Asimov

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The following is from another website.

MEMO from Ryanair Management to all Ryanair pilots


The following response was on the same site.


War is breaking out in Ryanair...standby for further developments.
 
Asimov,
Please post the link so that the content can be verified.
ajapale
 
Ryanair

All in good time Ajapale, all in good time.


New development.

O'Leary called a meeting of all Stansted Pilots on July 7th at which he was to browbeat them over their intention to join BALPA.

The guys were required to attend on their own time.

There was a turnout of about 20 who were pressganged into it.

Not only was the first meeting ignored, but subsequent sessions were also boycotted.

He has now sent the following threatening letter to all the guys in Stansted.


What a nice place to work!
 
Please post the link so that the content can be verified.

All in good time Ajapale, all in good time.

Eh...no offence Asimov, but how does anyone know that you're not just making all this up? I don't see why posting the link to the website is something that requires a drumroll?
 
Ryanair

Making it up? I've got better things to do with my time than invent yards of drivel.

Are you of the opinion that this is so outrageous that it must be made up?

I'd agree with you...only its for real!

I'll post the link when I'm ready.
 
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Are you of the opinion that this is so outrageous that it must be made up?

No, I never said that. I don't know though do I...because you won't post the link :\

I'll post the link when I'm ready.

I'm sorry, but I really have no idea why you want to keep this a secret from people? Is it for dramatic effect? If so...I'd be surprised if people cared all that much. But I could be wrong.
 
Ryanair

Nothing to do with drama Piggy. Why do you always look for a conspiracy theory? Would you consider the possibility that the thread is on a secure website?

The thread is now 31 pages long and growing. The size of the thread is indicative of the pent up anger in that company.

Are there any lawyers reading this who could give an opinion on the legality of the threats contained in this letter and whether it would constitute bullying in the workplace?
 
Rule 14

Asimov,

Rule 14) Please respect copyright:
If you quote from a publication or website, always acknowledge the source and provide a link.

For all we know you are part of the RyanAir publicity office or some class of a Troll.

Also, if you have a conflict of interest perhaps it would be best to declare it now?

ajapale
 
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Sorry Asimov...I have to agree with Ajapale on this.

Would you consider the possibility that the thread is on a secure website?
Then how can anyone on a public website like AAM verify that what you're saying is true or just pure made-up nonsense. I'm not saying it is mind you...because I can't verify either way, can I?
 
Ryanair

No need to work yourselves into a lather.

Heres your 'proof'.

[broken link removed]

I expect you'll need a few hours to read it all.
See you later.
 
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What was the big deal about posting that? :\
 
Rule 14

Thanks Asmimov,
I was beginning to think that you were a troll or worse part of the RyanAir publicity machine.

Welcome to PPRuNe, The Professional Pilots RUmour NEtwork

ajapale
 
Ryanair

Finished reading it already Piggy?

The simple reason was that most people (like you) wouldn't be bothered enough to trawl through 31 pages, and/or wouldn't understand what was being said in most of the posts anyhow.
Its too much information and a distraction from the issue. The extracts I posted are an accurate precis of the whole thread.

But then, distractions are something you enjoy though...I've noticed. Try to contribute something useful, or stay away.
 
Ryanair

Ajapale, how could you imagine the Ryanair publicity machine would benefit from having the public know about the impending war in their company?
It wouldn't do the share price a lot of good, would it.
 
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Finished reading it already Piggy?
Eh...no! I think you misunderstand the point of posting a link coupled with qoutes. It's to verify that they are qoutes and not just stuff you made up yourself. That's all.

The simple reason was that most people (like you) wouldn't be bothered enough to trawl through 31 pages, and/or wouldn't understand what was being said in most of the posts anyhow.
That's why you post the link with the posts in the first place. For verification.

But then, distractions are something you enjoy though...I've noticed. Try to contribute something useful, or stay away.
I see. Fascinating. You're getting personal. Nice. Care to expand on that?
 
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how could you imagine the Ryanair publicity machine would benefit from having the public know about the impending war in their company?

No publicity is bad publicity (some might say).
 
Macho Posturing

how could you imagine the Ryanair publicity machine would benefit from having the public know about the impending war in their company?

Of course Ryanair benefit from reports that they are aggresively tackling trade unions.

Incidently have you read to O'Leary interview in last sunday's Sunday Times? You could ask the question how Ryanairs publicity machine benefits from.. attacking democraticlly elected ministers, disparaging people in wheel chairs, bigger breasts on the RyanAir logo and people from Westmeath (in gerneral). All these events are carefully crafted and balanced to optimise 'shareholder value'. You have to hand it to them theire unconventional approach is very effective.

So in answer to your question even if you are not part of the RyanAir publicity machine you are doing a great job of giving them free publicity.

ajapale
 
Who is Asimov

I offer no opinion on Ryanair (ok, I lied, I like them) but how can you call this a "Veiled threat"

"Those who are not willing to deal directly with the company will not be provided the superior benefits that Europe’s most successful airline brings from this positive engagement. "

It is not veiled at all. It is perfectly clear, perfectly up front, perfectly honest. No pussyfooting, no deliberate ambiguity so as to allow for future "wriggle room", just a plain statement of intent. In my view, such clear communications are to be praised.
 
Ryanair

Of course Ryanair benefit from reports that they are aggresively tackling trade unions.

Ajapale there are no unions in Ryanair...yet.

What is actually happening is that O'Leary is "aggresively tackling" his once loyal (and happily un-unionised) workforce so hard that he is driving them into the arms of the unions.

"So what" you may say?

Well, maybe nothing, maybe everything!

If the unions DO get a foothold in Ryanair it could change the situation there entirely, and not just there but in many other companies where O'Learys tactics are being copied.

MOB, you miss the point.
The threat is certainly veiled, in that it says just enough to get the threat across to the staff, but not explicitly enough to have Mr.Warwick Brady immediately faced with a cast iron prima fascie 'constructive dismissal' case in the event he ever carries it out.
So I challenge your statement that suggests Ryanair management are "perfectly clear, perfectly up front, perfectly honest"...they are - on the contrary - slimy and weasley worded bullies.

Still, its great to get this out in the open. Even if it gives Ryanair some "advertising for free". They're welcome to it. Its the kind of advertising that is about to blow up in their face.
 
Piggy

Oh, by the way Piggy (almost forgot you).

Do you EVER add anything to a thread? Besides dissertations on your wounded pride?

You could digress for Ireland.

Go away.