That's the key point and that's why the bishops are rebelling, they feel there is another agenda besides health to keep these events stopped. The government bent over backwards to get the gaa up and running announcing 40000 can attend the all Ireland's, no "abbundance of caution" there. Last year the big upsurge in cases was due to the county finals going ahead and all the associated drinking and partying afterwardsIndeed, one bishop (in Kilkenny) is considering have a giant confirmation cermony in Nolan Park. I presume his logic is if we can have 4000 people in a stadium watching the Kilkenny hurlers, why can't we have 2000 in a stadium for a confirmation?. it'll be no different to the EID celebrations in Croker a couple of weeks ago
And if 50 people can go and toast Katherine Zapone getting a new job.....................
The restrictions are completely unrelated to the church element...Those masses were completely and utterly in line with Covid regulations with restrictions on numbers in pods etc etc. How that is a danger is beyond me.
They why are the Govt saying the Church service should not go ahead,?? After all, they've said parents should take responsibility for their kids in terms of deciding if they go or do not go into a restauraunt. You can go an get married and have an event afterwards. You could go out and get completely and utterly plastered tonight in a pub if you want to. I don't know if it bigotry, hypocrisy or just plain ignorence by the Govt but it totally and utterly lacks logicThe restrictions are completely unrelated to the church element...
As widely reported, to discourage the large gatherings that follow. What effect would you expect thousands of such gatherings of extended families who don't normally socialise together around the country to have on case numbers?They why are the Govt saying the Church service should not go ahead,??
What about them? Surely you understand that the risk profile of that outdoor, socially distanced event is not the same as an extended family gathering in a house?@Leo what about the gaa and 40000 being allowed into croke park to see all Ireland's,
They were, and the events that caused that surge were large gatherings indoors with no social distancing.The gaa finals and partying afterwards were largely responsible for the upsurge in covid cases last September.
What indoor events are the GAA being allowed to hold?It's the lack of consistency and favouritism being shown to some sectors most notably the gaa that is the issue
As widely reported, to discourage the large gatherings that follow. What effect would you expect thousands of such gatherings of extended families who don't normally socialise together around the country to have on case numbers?
It's not my justification, it's the reason that has been put out by official sources. Are you suggesting all the parties happen inside churches???@Leo but your justification for not allowing communions and confirmations to commence is because of the potential of socializing afterwards but the gaa is allowed to proceed despite the fact that there has been extensive socializing afterwards. That's just inconsistent and unfair, churches and cathedrals are some of the biggest indoor venues in the country .
No, compliant indoor dining and on-premise drinking carry a very different risk profile to a large gathering in a house.Thousands of these gathering are happening every week, it's called dining out or going to the pub, or going to the Aviva to watch Bohs or Croker to watch Cork or Dublin. Why are religous cermonies being singled out by the D4 Govt?
But there are no restrictions on fully vacinated people visiting each others houses anymore, in the same way as there are no restrictions on fully vacinated people traveling to France or going into a pub and getting drunk. Fully vacinated people could put a marquee up, in a back garden, and have 50 people around for a wedding or sit in the garden of the Merrion hotel if they want to. For some reason, certain politicians seem to think a First Communion is some kind of bachinalan last days of Rome orgy.No, compliant indoor dining and on-premise drinking carry a very different risk profile to a large gathering in a house.
Why is it a D4 Govt.? Did the rest of the country not get a say at the last election?
I have been out a little, but not much. There's a pandemic still raging and getting worse you know!Leo have you been out much in the last month?
For every venue that applies the rules correctly (scanning Covid19 cert, name phone details, checking drivers license id) table service only, there's another that's only half pretending to check the required details..
An irish solution to a NPHET problem
Do you believe thousands of such events are happening indoors across the country with large gatherings of people who don't usually socialise together are mixing?But there are no restrictions on fully vacinated people visiting each others houses anymore, in the same way as there are no restrictions on fully vacinated people traveling to France or going into a pub and getting drunk.
I was speaking to a friend lately who is hopeful that ceremonies will not proceed for some time yet. As many others, they feel obliged to have the big party in the house because that's what the child and the extended families expect, and a number of his in-laws have refused to be vaccinated. He doesn't want them putting other relatives at risk but feels trapped as not inviting them would lead to grief.And yes, I know some people will say there will be unvacinated people but the Govt said that parents should trust their judgement when taking kids into a restaurant.
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