Terry Gorry video on his difficulty getting rid of a non paying tenant

He is supposed to be taking procession today, but posted a video filmed last week. I assume 'today' did not go as planned.
 
DannyBoyD said:
Turns up unannounced, rings on doorbell & has apparently pointless conversations with neighbours.
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I haven't watched it, but possibly the point he is making is that even though he owns the apartment and is paying the mortgage, his 'rights' as a landlord extend to ringing neighbours' doors and chatting to them and that is it, nothing more he can do.
 
Greenbook said:
his 'rights' as a landlord extend to ringing neighbours' doors
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In truth, I'm not sure he has the right to do that. Any tenant could easily bring a claim of harrassment with this.

What the property owner can seek is access for inspection / maintenance; if tenant continues to refuse, then off you go to RTB. And yes the RTB is useless, we know.

Many owners stop doing inspections when issues with rent payment arise.

The video is not much better than click-bait.
 
DannyBoyD said:
In truth, I'm not sure he has the right to do that. Any tenant could easily bring a claim of harrassment with this.
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It’s perfectly legal to approach other people and talk to them.

The bar for harassment is far higher and usually involves repeated action that is far beyond anything objectively reasonable.
 
Tenant may well not succeed in their claim; but you'll still have the hassle of responding to it & mud sticks.
 
Poor cats.

You have your locksmith lined up and locks changed that day.

Cleaning crew in on Monday & a skip out front. Repainted the following week.

He got the flat back & no major repairs by the looks of it.

Biggest issue for me - and any property owner - is the length of time it takes to remove a non-paying tenant.
 
So the cats moved into another of his apartments to destroy that one too.
I believe he owns about 10 apartments in that estate. Imagine how long it would take him to sell up everything there if he is looking to get out of the business.
 
DannyBoyD said:
In truth, I'm not sure he has the right to do that. Any tenant could easily bring a claim of harrassment with this.
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Just curious as to how this works.
If the lady in the apartment was not his tenant, and he had the RTB order that the tenant was to vacate, and the tenant was gone, is the landlord still prohibited from going into his property?

As the lady was the tenant’s guest/lodger/licensee, didn’t she need to leave when the tenant left? When she stayed on, would that be described as trespass?
 
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JamieB_ said:
So the cats moved into another of his apartments to destroy that one too
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It looks that way. He says he built the estate in 2006, so I assume he still owes more units.
It appears he will give the place a cleanup and may rent it back you her, with 'the system' paying. We had had many tenants like that for decades, on HAP and disability etc. Eventually they will qualify for social housing/nursing home etc. Once the building is not destroyed you get the place back, gut it (new kitchen, bathroom, wiring, heating etc) and start again. This needs to he done to reset the rent. BTW, If you think that apartment is destroyed, you have never seen real destruction.
 
Im just surprised Terry G relet the property after all that. I was in a similar situation with a tenant. Thankfully all resolved now and have property back. Property thrashed and part of rent still owed. Im out tbh for me not worth the headache. And the RTB made the process even more difficult. Thankfully I didn't have to go to the hassle and expense of a court visit.
With new regulations coming in March for me it's not worth the risk again.
 
I think he has a lot of apartments so it will take him a fair bit of time to extract himself from the business. He is kind of stuck now. If he wants out he has to give them all notice before March. Then he has to leave the ones where people move out empty as he fights through the RTB and the courts with the ones who wont leave. He could be many years getting out of this. All the while having to leave each one he clears empty until they are all empty and he can sell then. Cant see anyone wanting to buy those blocks unless they are totally empty. Also cant see anyone wanting to buy any single apartment there either with the blocks looking the way they do. Hes all in on this.
 
@JamieB_ what a mess he has involved himself in

Also leads to a question I've always had with the new 6 year tenancies, in a situation like that with tenants coming and going at different times, how do you work out when the 6 year period begins and ends. Is there a new six year period for each new tenant? Can you ever get vacant possession so, if you want to sell?
 
Greenbook said:
new 6 year tenancies
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Is this referring to the new 6-year Tenancy of Minimum Duration due to be introduced on 1 March? If so, wouldn’t it be irrelevant in this case, given that he will be a Larger Landlord? As I understand it, from 1 March 2026 onwards, any new tenancy with a Larger Landlord can only be terminated for breach or if the dwelling is no longer suitable.
 
stormy said:
Is this referring to the new 6-year Tenancy of Minimum Duration due to be introduced on 1 March? If so, wouldn’t it be irrelevant in this case, given that he will be a Larger Landlord?
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He would be, so 6 years is irrelevant to him. I was making a general point and should have been clearer on that. Many small landlords have tenants coming and going, how will they work out when the 6 years begins and ends, that was my point.
 
Understood. Yes, that's an issue - the question has come up at IPOA meetings I've attended, and IPOA reps said they still don't have clarity from the Department of Housing.
 
stormy said:
the question has come up at IPOA meetings I've attended, and IPOA reps said they still don't have clarity from the Department of Housing.
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I suspect there isn't an answer to it.

If A and B move into a two bed apartment on 2 March 2026, they have 6 years to 1 March 2032.

A moves out in 2027 and is replaced by C - when does C's 6 years start? Is it based on A's and B's period or does he start a new one for himself

B moves out in 2028 and D moves in - what on earth is the situation now? Both of the original tenants have left and have been replaced by new tenants at different times.

If C has 6 years from 2027 and D has 6 years from 2028, how and when does the landlord get vacant possession? Or is the time still taken from when A and B moved in meaning that C and D don't actually have 6 year tenancies after all?

C and D may be replaced by E and F who are replaced by G and H all during the original 6 year period adding to the confusion

I suspect that this entirely obvious point was never considered by whoever came up with the 6 year cycle.
 
Stormy
You said you attended IPOA meetings.
Wondering has it been confirmed whether tenancies are ranked per tenancy or per house under the new rules. As in 1 House in 5 flats. Is this 5 tenancies or 1.
 
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