Self Build - The costs?

Do you have a breakdown of material and labour for external walls? Also is there any stone on the external walls? I wasnt expecting such a high price for blockwork!!!
 
Salmon,
yes: forgot to mention 67sq m of stonework to ext wall - 12k included in the 48k
 
All,
Here's the basic breakdown for my 1453 sq/ft brick/block pad in Dublin ... Dublin prices aswell !

2 storey detached dwelling + assoc site works, elec, plumbing/rads, internal doors
195,000

Internal Finishes
2,100 tiling (fitting only)
5,500 painting (interior)

External Finishes
4,500 Cobble lock driveway

P.C. Sums
3,000 Patio
3,000 Fireplace
3,000 Wardrobes
5,000 Sanitary fittings

250,000 incl. VAT

I suppose the main thing is that I've seen this guys work around Dublin on 1 off houses and he's top notch ... He's pretty local to the site and he himself is on the job from start to finish ...
 
Salem,

What kind of area are you cobble locking? Is this stuff expensive to put in?
 
Hi Salem, I am building approx 1800sq ft in Cork (contract, not self build). I am at the sanitary ware stage, have 1 bathroom,1 ensuite and 1 guest wc. Your sanitary ware price seems high, can I ask if that is for a very elaborate set up? (Hope I haven't miscalculated for my own!) thanks.
 
Here are our estimates. In dub for 2500 sq/ft bungalow. Direct Labour for most parts.
From what I can see it looks like we are paying a lot..... So far we are in line.. and roof is on and windows ordered.

Pre lims 44.K, Site Prep and Ex 13.4K, Foundations 8K, Rising Wall Constr to Floor level, 6.3K, Ext and Int Wall 50K, Int & ext Plaster 17.7, Sub Floor and Floor, 13.626, Roof. 66K, Drainage Equip and Pipework 8.1, Kitchen and Sanitary Ware 38.5K, Wall & Floor Finishes/Joinery and Windows 36.3, lanscaping and peers, 10K, Elect & Plumb, 30K and Unforseen 10K.

Suffice to say Windows alone are costing 30K so that figure is a little light.
 
Polo1, you could have used a contractor to do it for that much I would think? I mean you are paying roughly 140 per sq foot which seems quite high for direct labour!
 
Yeah it does seem a little high!! I am building in the midlands and from what I hear the prices are lower here than in dublin! But I have to say I didnt think there was as much of a difference between the big smoke and the sticks!!
 
Venus said:
Polo1, you could have used a contractor to do it for that much I would think? I mean you are paying roughly 140 per sq foot which seems quite high for direct labour!
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To be honest we couldnt as they were quoting way over that.. nearly 100K +... We are hoping some of the internals etc will come down as we go through. I think a lot of the expensive stuff is over with now...... or maybe not.... It was a big project and found it hard to get people to even quote for a lot of the work..... We are hoping to finish for around the 115 sq ft mark, although personally think this is ambitious.... We shopped around and continue to do so and have tried to do cash deals etc.....
 
Polo1, very interested in your ICF build. We are still waiting for your PP, but were quite impressed with Nudura at a recent build exhibition in Swords.
Just wondering how you found them (as a company)?
How they compared cost wise to timber frame/block build?
Did you have to get a carpenter to do the roof or did Nudura do this also?
To what spec did they/could they finish the build, i.e. plaster walls, plumbing, electricity..
Thanks for your time.
 
As regard materials no corners have been cut. Inbetween the blocks and in the subfloor has the more expensive kingspan. the outer walls have a 3x2 stud and rockwool in it, (very warm)
Roof (cut) Labour 8,800, Materials complete 8,200 (everything down to the nails)
First fix carpentry labour 1500, materials 800 ( I have the outer walls studded with rockwool.)
Insulation Materials 1700 Labour 0
All labour up to roof level (all site clearing, foundations dug, blocks layed, subfloor poured, All blocks layed and its a block house complete 9500. Materials for this not sure A good few thousand.
Windows + Doors 8000 (2 bay windows, sunroom, french doors etc)
Plumbing Labour 5000 (complete house)
Materials inc 20 rads 10,000 (I went for a pretty upscale heating system but worth every penny copper cylinder was 2000 alone, could have been done for 8k complete on the cheap compared to 15)
Pot Belly stove 1700
3 toilets, 3 handbasins, Jacuzzi, 1500
Main shower 500, shower door 1000
En-Suite Shower 300
Tiles ????
Plasterer Labour 16000 (inc slabbing of 180+ slabs) Materials 3000
Second fix labour 700, Materials 2000
Septic Tank 4200 (oakstown)
Kitchen (large) inc island, sink, lader unit, extractor fan etc, Kitchen is Oak with a few extra's high gloss finish etc. 7000
Stud rail fencing (in you planning conditions) 1250 with me putting it up, would have been 3300 if I got someone to do it.
Cooker 2200
American Fridge Freezer 1200
White goods 1500
Facia and soffet 2000 fitted
Stairs 4000
Bed + lockers 1500
House is a 3660 square feet dormer.
Thats all I can remember at the moment. All prices are cash and I done most of the donkey work myself. those bits add up to 90500 ish. So there is plenty more.
Oh yes 15,400 odd for council Tac.

Edit: Electrical work 7000 inc garage, 1300 odd for ESB connection
 
Just read this
forgot to mention 67sq m of stonework to ext wall - 12k included in the 48k
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so 36k for blockwork. This post will be deleted if not edited immediately Christ thats unbelievable, 36k!!! Have you paid yet?
 
Yeah I thought it was a little high myself. Great Breakdown Plane! How long have you been building the house? Where abouts in the country are you? And would some of the prices you were given be a little lower than the norm as a result of knowing some of the tradesmen? This is great information for me at this stage in my build. Just waiting for mortgage approval!
 
KimWilde said:
Polo1, very interested in your ICF build. .
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KimWilde, No probs
Mr Polo dealt with Nudura - and to be honest they were great... We had no probs. We bought the system from them and did most of the work ouselves. If you are handy and have a couple of lads to help I am sure you could do it also. Its like building lego and very easy to cut etc! The guy (G Lydon) from Nudura in Galway did come down and supervise a couple of times (ended up staying in our current house for the weekend on a couple of occassions which didnt bide well with me!!) to ensure we were doing it properly and also to supervise the concrete pour (we used 30N10 I think). That was the toughest part. We got the house poured in one day which was great... They even sent us down extra bits and all if when ran out or cut wrong etc.
In terms of costs I am told (by Mr P) that it is in line with stone build in Dub area. I can find out more here from himself.
As we are doing ours direct we got two people to do the roof and carpenter and someone to do the slates, as I said it was a Truss roof and had 5 hips so it was quite complicated and hence quite expensive (planning regs :mad:!)
We are finishing the outside wall with stone up to the window ledges. Not sure what we are using yet but some type of graniteor quartz I guess.
Still trying to make a decision.

If you are based in and around Dub and would like to come and have a look PM me we can arrange something.
Good luck with the decision.
 
Plane, Breakddown attached for you comment, we've blockwork up & downstairs and quite a few supporting walls etc EXTERNAL & INTERNAL WALLS 300mm Cavity perimeter walls including insulation type 60mm Kingspan Thermawall TW 50336m²60.0020,160.00 Close cavity on top with block on flat (say)36m5.50198.00 Large door opes in block11No130.001,430.00 Small window opes in block12No80.00960.00 External door opes in block2No80.00160.00 Extra over for brickwork / stonework67m²175.0011,725.00(Stone from existing ruins on site to be used) Large window opes in stone1No450.00450.00 Small window opes in stone1No135.00135.00 Internal walls 100mm129m²23.002,967.00 Door opes in last10No15.00150.00 Walls 225mm solid48m²50.002,400.00 Door opes in last 3No 35.00105.00 Chimney stack complete as shown with 2 flues 1No1,400.001,400.00 Ditto to last with one flue1No1,000.001,000.00 203 x 102 x 25kgs/m x 11-00m0-275Tonnes2,500.00687.50 203x 102 x 28kgs/m x 10-60m0-296 Tonnes2,500.00740.00 203 x 203 x 71kgs/m x 5m0-35Tonnes2,500.00875.00 Concrete seatings for last10No550.00550.00 Concrete upstand banges complete26m75.001,950.00
 
Folks,

anyone build a detached garage, and if so what do you reckon it ended up costing ye?

Salmon
 
My detached garge built by builder when doing house cost 26k.....32ft long.....Pitched roof, 2 large windows, back door and roller door.. Would probably build it for less if direct labour..
 
Sounds like a good size shed. Did the price include the window and doors! Sounds like a decent price too for the size! Was the builder building a house for you too at the same time?
 
Salmon : This price included windows and doors, (paid bit extra for brown win + doors on garage and house) and he built the garage while building the house..in the Longford area.
 
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