I was being sarcastic !They have all our contact data. It's taken at tenancy registration.
I was being sarcastic !They have all our contact data. It's taken at tenancy registration.
OMG, it's unbelievable. So anyone who sent in a rent review incorrectly (by post) could be potentially in a mess. My goodness, let's say you sent in the rent review two years ago, and let's say we get to 2030, does this mean if a tenant is in dispute with you, and they go to the RTB, that it could be ruled that your Rent Review from 2024 would be invalid as it wasn't 'served' on the tenant and the RTB on the same day ! Christ on a bike !!Same day service for rent reviews/rent settings are required since 1 March, so many of those rents are now invalidity reviewed / set.
I'm not sure if that's more sarcasm! The RTB is in the High Court defending its own tribunal determinations on a regular basis - it instructs solicitors and briefs counsel as a matter of routine. It has an internal legal function (headed by Janette Fogarty), the Board has always had legally qualified members, and a good chunk of its adjudicators and tribunal members are practicing solicitors and barristers. It's adjudication / tribunal arm have (albeit limited) functions and powers of a judicial nature.They don't have lawyers, or access to lawyers to clarify the implications !
A rent review done before 1 March 2026 won't be void on the same-day point, because there was no requirement to serve it on the RTB back then (never mind same day). That rule only arrived on 1Mar26.that it could be ruled that your Rent Review from 2024 would be invalid as it wasn't 'served' on the tenant and the RTB on the same day !
Yes it is. I did a rent review recently with the new system. Navigating the RTB website and doing everything took me about 2 hours and I tried to read their pages in details, had issues finding the calculator, took a while to understand that my RTB login and password didn't work in their service center but that I needed to create a new one. Then I decided to send everything by email to my tenants instead of dropping the notice to make sure I had a written proof. And before sending everything to the RTB, I asked my tenants to confirm they had received the email by WhatsApp. All that, for an additional 25 Euro a month. To me there's no sensible reason to explain the same day issue. Just trying to tie the process into knots.(It took actually longer than that because after the 2 hours I discovered I had made a typo mistake on the area of the property, phone the RTB, was told I needed to sent everything again... )this is bureaucracy gone mad
The whole idea is to prevent any increases in rent at all, no matter how small. Ensure you have to spend a whole day filing in, uploading and serving forms. Get it wrong, and you're facing possible criminal liability for an increase of a little more than €12 per month after tax.All that, for an additional 25 Euro a month.
Yes of course I was being sarcastic, obvioiusly I'm not good enough at it ! Thank you for the insightful knowledge on how much legal advice the RTB has.A rent review done before 1 March 2026 won't be void on the same-day point, because there was no requirement to serve it on the RTB back then (never mind same day). That rule only arrived on 1Mar26.
The one thing that could bite on an older posted review is the 90 days notice. If it went by post, you can't be sure what date was recieved, so proving the tenant actually got the full 90 days before the new rent took effect gets shaky.
Once you put a euro value on your time or engage a professional to do that for you, it is just unnecessary increased costs.The whole idea is to prevent any increases in rent at all, no matter how small. Ensure you have to spend a whole day filing in, uploading and serving forms. Get it wrong, and you're facing possible criminal liability for an increase of a little more than €12 per month after tax.
Also shows the bias towards the Institutional landlords. IRES Reit will have plenty of staff whose sole job is to deal with the rent setting forms.
All this is a trap for the small landlord.
The legislation is so convoluted it makes sarcasm genuinely impossible to detect. And that's the real problem: there will be at least some rent reviews issued since 1 Mar 26 (and possibly rent-setting notices too) where the landlord posted them, and a tenant could well bring a case in 2030 arguing the notice was invalid for want of same-day service. If that succeeds, the landlord is looking at years of backdated overpayment refunds. The RTB's head of Investigations & Sanctions indicated only last week that incorrectly set rents are a focus, and that they could look back as far as 2019 (which makes sense - that's when the I&S powers commenced).Yes of course I was being sarcastic, obvioiusly I'm not good enough at it !
Correct. So if a tenant did not get min 90 notice from date of service of the notice - it's invalid (even pre 1Mar26 rent review notices). The issue is that the RTB told us all date of date of service was date it was sent, but now its pretty clear it was always date received.Which one is the 90 days notice? Of Rent Review?
The one thing that could bite on an older posted review is the 90 days notice. If it went by post, you can't be sure what date was recieved, so proving the tenant actually got the full 90 days before the new rent took effect gets shaky.
And therein lies the crux of the problem.the law is not what the RTB thought or ruled was the law in their Determination Orders/Tribunals
It's truly extraordinary. This Tribunal sat two months before Argutinski v RTB and still ran with receipt as the date of service - contradicting the RTB's own guidance. Hard not to conclude some inside the RTB already knew the guidance was wrong, and saw the High Court loss coming.because in his most recent rent review he had only given 90 days notice from the date he posted the letter (10th January), and the tenant only received the letter on 14th January.
Another option would be to just keep trying until it works.We do not recommend sending your notice by post to your tenant and to the RTB. The notice will be invalid if the post is not delivered to the RTB and your tenant on the same day.
Given the importance, shouldn't they be flagging this more ie. issuing a press release that their instructions have changed?
From when does this apply?
Does that mean there are up to 7000 invalid notices of termination for the last quarter??
From memory, reading the case, it looked to me that the judge's view is that the correct legal rule was always receipt on the same day.
A rent review done before 1 March 2026 won't be void on the same-day point, because there was no requirement to serve it on the RTB back then (never mind same day). That rule only arrived on 1Mar26.
Up until now, had you argued receipt before an RTB Tribunal, you'd have lost hands down.The RTB are clear that their recommendations are not legal advice.
Not necessarily, a determination order can be appealed on a point of law (which this is)Also, landlords who submitted a claim against their own notice and got a ruling that their notice was valid should hopefully be safe.
I'm not sure I understand this. Their website guidance was clearly misleading. They adjudication and tribunal functions need to apply the law. They have been applying the law incorrectly since 2020 as they interpreted date of service as date posted, not received.The RTB are clear that their recommendations are not legal advice. A government body shouldn't be allowed to do that really.
I guess its important to have a sense of humor when dealing with the RTB!A small silver lining.
I doubt very much that serving the documents on a tenant on a Monday and on the RTB on a Tuesday would be treated as a slip. The website is very clear - both must be served on the same day.Please don't panic! If there's a problem with service of a document but there's no dispute it was sent, the RTB may be able to apply the "slip rule". It doesn't mean a document is invalid.
Please don't panic! If there's a problem with service of a document but there's no dispute it was sent, the RTB may be able to apply the "slip rule". It doesn't mean a document is invalid.