Residency status for taxation if you are laid off abroad and have to return to Ireland sooner than intended

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Good evening all,
Just wondering if anyone has any knowledge of the implications of losing a job in year two of being abroad and having to come home - and implications for Irish taxation on your foreign earned income. Story was I moved abroad early last - was in Ireland less than 100 days of 2025 - but I am being made redundant here now and it is likely I will have to move back to Ireland (so I would breach the 280 days between 2025 and 2026). It obviously wasn't my into be made redundant and I did sign a three year contract in January 2025 as I hope that might be relevant?
Thanks for any help or advice - and I am struggling to find a tax consultant or accountant who can help me so if anyone has any recommendations please do let me know.
 
 
Were you in Ireland for 280 days or more over the 2024/2025 tax years? If so you are irish tax resident for 2025 and as such your foreign income earned in 2025 was liable for irish taxation unless you claimed split year residence
 
Thanks. That's what I was afraid of. I requested SYT from Revenue on two occasions and I very literally had an online argument with the girl who was managing my query as she told me over and over I was not entitled to SYT as I was not resident at the time of departure because I had left before the 30 of Jan 2025. That made no sense to me but she also stated, on three occasions in her replies to me as I kept querying it, that I would not be liable for Irish tax on the foreign earned employment income. I have the replies I got from her printed.
So now, if I have been incorrectly denied in-year granting of SYT by that agent, where does that leave me? Is that my problem or Revenue's problem? As I said, I didn't accept her replies and I pushed back three times and at one point she very literally replied in block capitals to tell me I was wrong? So what happens if a Revenue agent has 1) told me the wrong thing about not being liable for tax and 2) actually been incorrect in refusing to grant me in-year SYT as I am adamant I was entitled to it? Surely, in the case of number 2, I am entitled to have that rectified by Revenue?
 
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I presume she was basing her assumption of your non residency on the fact that you were departing Ireland less than 30 days into the 2025 tax year and hence automatically non resident but did not take into account the likely possibility of you returning for periods of time and thus triggering residency. You acted in good faith by claiming SYT, did you inform her in your replies that you would be returning to Ireland for periods of time in 2025?
On the face of it you have a justified case to appeal if you did in fact trigger residency in 2025 as you took reasonable steps to claim SYT and you have evidence of correspondence, If you wanted to go down that road probably best to use an accountant/ CTA to deal with revenue.
 
Hi. Thanks for the replies by the way. I actually spelled out to her that I was returning on various occasions when on leave and specifically said that I had therefore spent more than 30 days in the country. I quoted part of the TCA to her that said that those days were counted in Ireland for residency and she told me I was wrong and that I was not liable for tax on my foreign earned income. I pushed back on a number of occasions and hence she literally replied in bold to me to emphasise that I should accept what she had said and that I should go away and stop querying her replies.
 
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Reply to my request for SYT:
Dear XXXX,
I acknowledge receipt of your recent correspondence and I apologise for the delay.
I have reviewed the information provided and I can confirm that as you departed Ireland on 17th January, you have less than 30 days in 2025 and would be considered Non-Resident for the year. As such, Split Year Treatment is not applicable.
I can confirm that you are not taxable on your Foreign Income in Ireland from your date of departure as your duties of employment have not been carried out in Ireland.
At the end of the 2025 Tax Year, please ensure you file your Income Tax Return via myAccount.
Kind Regards,
YYY
National NRU
Personal Division

My first push back:
Dear YYY,
Thank you sincerely for your response. I just wanted to confirm that I have taken annual leave here from the job in ZZZ and therefore spent some of that time in Ireland in 2025 - so I think I am correct to note that the 30 day rule does not apply as I believe that any days spent in Ireland, even if it is on leave from abroad, count as residence days?
It is because of this, therefore, that I am applying for the inyear granting of SYT so hence my request that Revenue would confirm that I have been granted in year SYT as per the December 2024 guidance on the residency of individuals which says that in year SYT can be applied for?

Reply
Dear XXXX,
I acknowledge receipt of your recent correspondence.
I note that Split Year Treatment in the Year of Departure would Only apply if you left Ireland as a Resident and did not return after your date of departure.
As all of your duties of employment have been carried out in ZZZZ, you would not be taxable on this foreign income in Ireland.
Kind Regards

Next push back from me:
Dear YYY,
Thank you for your help and your reply confirming that I will not be liable to be charged tax on the income earned here in ZZZZ.
However, I would like to query your reply regarding the application for in-year SYT in the year of departure? I note, for example, that Revenue guidance on SYT
(https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-profe...ains-tax-corporation-tax/part-34/34-OO-i1.pdf) notes:
"Departure cases
The individual must satisfy an authorised officer of the Revenue Commissioners during the year of departure that he/she has left the State with the intention of being non-resident in the year following departure. An intended absence from the State for a continuous period of 15 months will generally ensure that this test is satisfied. Additionally, the absence from the State must be for a purpose other than a temporary purpose.
The requirement to satisfy an authorised officer that these conditions will be satisfied must be done by the individual during the actual year of arrival or departure (in-year requirement)."

and also notes that

"Return visits to the State for holidays will not affect the application of split year treatment, provided all the other conditions of section 822 TCA 1997 are satisfied."
Therefore, as I left this year having signed a three year contract (copy previously submitted) and I do not intend to return until that contract is finished; and as I have only returned on holidays, I am unclear as to why SYT does not apply to me? Indeed speaking to other Irish colleagues here in the last number of days they have confirmed that they have previously applied for and been granted in-year SYT so hence my confusion?
Thanking you again for your help

Next reply from Revenue
Dear XXXX,
I acknowledge receipt of your recent correspondence.
For Split Year Treatment to apply to you, you must be considered Resident in Ireland from your final date of departure and not return to Ireland from your departure date. As you departed Ireland on the 17th of January, you have less than 30 days in Ireland and would not be considered Resident, therefore Split Year Treatment can not apply.
I refer to the Qualifying Conditions outlined in the Tax and Duty Manual Part34-OO-11 (3):
Qualifying conditions
To qualify for SYT for the year of arrival/departure, the following conditions apply:
• the individual must be resident in the State for the year of arrival/departure

I pushed back again:
Dear YYY,
Thanks again for your quick response. As per my message on 29/10, I have been in Ireland during annual leave periods from my job here in ZZZZ and I have, therefore, been in Ireland for more than 30 days.
Given that I believe that any day in Ireland is counted as residence my understanding is that I do therefore meet that condition?

Final reply to me:
Dear XXXX,
I acknowledge receipt of your recent correspondence.
Please note, you must be considered Resident in Ireland before your date of departure to qualify for Split Year Treatment.
As you departed Ireland with only 17 days in 2025, you do not qualify as Resident from your date of departure.


To be honest I gave up at that stage. As you can see above, I tried over and over to query the situation and I was completely transparent in noting I had visited Ireland and I was getting absolutely nowhere. It made no sense whatsoever to have me that the view would be I was not resident at the time of my departure in January 2025 as I had lived all my life in Ireland prior to that and therefore, given that I was paying tax on Irish income until the week I departed I was fighting her to say I was resident at the time of departure. So in fact, again as you can see above, you had the quite bizarre situation where I was arguing I had a potential liability on my foreign income because I had been returning to Ireland while the Revenue agent was adamant I would be not liable. So we were almost the wrong way around from what you would normally expect. And this is now potentially a big problem for me and I am really unhappy that I could have a liability because it looks like, to be blunt, a Revenue agent was completely in the wrong. You can also note that I will have income for 2026 in the form of a redundancy payment and money earned so far this year - so I assume that is also liable to be taxed unless I appeal?
Or the other alternative is that I make a return on the basis of the agent stating on a number of occasions that I did not owe tax but do I assume that becomes my problem if they follow up? Or is it their problem if I have been told the factually wrong thing by their agent?
 
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If there is a significant amount of money involved or the foreign income was earned in a low/no tax country and hence little benefit of relief through a foreign tax credit I'd appeal it with the help of a tax agent.
 
Thanks. There's a very significant sum involved - have been working in a tax free country. Reflecting on it now, I am very angry over ending up in this situation. I did exactly what I was supposed to do and someone working in Revenue has messed up and there is a chance I could suffer huge financial consequences.
My alternative is to do an Ivan Yates and hole up in Wales for six months of this year to ensure I don't breach the 280 days and it seems pretty unfair that I could be facing that because my query was incorrectly managed.
 
If there is a very significant sum of money involved professional advice/advocacy would be a good idea. Hope you get it resolved
 
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