Recommend solar panel installer

Colin4444

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Heya,

Just embarking on researching solar panels, and installation.
A Google search throws up plenty of installers, but whose good and whose bad...?

Anybody recommend an installer that services the north county Dublin area?

I have booked an appointment with Bord Gais as a start, they are known so assuming reputable..


So far I know (their is 2 of us and 3 cats living in 3 bed house):
- Get as many panels as possible, might not be too many as I have a dormer so roof space is limited..
- Should I go for just power or to heat water as well?
- What criteria for getting battery, suppose always better to get?

Wondering, would we still have power if their is a power outage? or how does this work?
 
In case this helps at all...
Hello,

If you aren't already a member, join the Irish Solar Owners Group, on Face.book.

It's got a super group of people on it, all helping each other, including plenty of enthusiasts, installers, and newbies.

You'll likely get a lot more expertise and assistance there, despite the good intentions of people here.
 
I have Swyft from Bord Gais installing mine this week.
They are offering an extra €1000 discount to their prices right now as a promotion.
They do start off expensive but there is wriggle room to begin with.
Then I priced exactly the same brands/items they were offering me with another installer and went back to them again to negotiate further and they matched the price.
They were very patient on the phone and explained everything and hopefully they will be around long enough for the support and guarantees.
 
Agree that FB group is the place to go to. I only discovered it after my install, but thankfully I'd done a lot of good donkey work! The group are really helpful in assessing quotes and advising when you need to keep shopping. I had about 8 quotes in total. Some were simply outrageous. Learnings since my install - I'd probably be more comfortable with a bigger battery (but it would have pushed out my payback. I only moved into the house, so I don't yet have good usage data). If the feed-in tariff rates reduce in the future, the battery will become even more important.
 
Wondering, would we still have power if their is a power outage? or how does this work?

My understanding (happy to be corrected if I'm wrong) is that it's doable, but most installers advise against it, mainly for safety reasons.

The price of batteries is consistently falling, so they're rapidly becoming a better option, as the payback period is shorter. Adding one to the system means installing a more expensive inverter so it really depends on how much your budget is.

I had enough cash for a battery and it was earning very little in a deposit account so I opted for the battery (5kWh) and am satisfied with my choice. But it stretched my payback period out to about 9 years, although that will reduce just as long as electricity prices keep increasing.
 
Thanks Clubman, but I dont have Facebook, got rid of it years ago..
Thanks @Millie* @MoolaMgr @Marsupial

Actually, another consideration is when I retire in 10 - 13 yrs I dont plan to spend winters in Ireland..
So, taking that into account is it recommended?


How much power is actually generated during the winter (generally, on an average installation)? Or do you generate all the power during the summer, sell back to grid that offsets bills during the winter?


Saw mysolar.ie was recommended on this site by a previous poster, does this quote look good, not sure if this includes battery or not, but its for power and water, all up front for 6578 with 12 panels.. Will try to get as many panels as possible tho, just depends on how many can fit on roof!!

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I have 13 panels + 5kwh battery + eddi which I got after grant for 8k. I haven't paid a bill and am currently 200 euros in credit.

Whether you get a battery or not at install get a hybrid inverter for future proofing ability of adding a battery. String inverter do not allow for batteries.

I would set up a dummy Facebook account and join that group. The knowledge and experience on that is second to none
 
In Ireland roughly 80% of PV solar is generated between April and September. Add on March and October and you're at 90%.

In my experience (2 winters) daily PV for the other four months would barely boil a kettle!
 
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Agree today have have generated 2.3 kwh. We have a 5kwh battery so using mostly off that but the winter we use up the credit built up over summer
 
About right maybe into New Year. If I was doing it again I'd ditch the how water eddi and get a 10kwh battery. I'm also looking at switching tarriff as potentially could save more as energia have just changed FIT rates.

Also we are not over zealous with things we could eek out more savings if we changed behaviour
 
Thanks Clubman, but I dont have Facebook, got rid of it years ago..
I don't use Facebook either but if I was interested in solar options then I'd certainly create an account so that I could access that group via a web browser as suggested here:
I would set up a dummy Facebook account and join that group. The knowledge and experience on that is second to none
 
For installers, keep an eye out for active installs in your area that might give you an idea of who's local. Local is better IMO. Mine was installed by a company from the North, and I wouldn't recommend them as getting them back was difficult and now 4 years later impossible. I agree the FB group is a great source of info for these. There are several installers on there who actively support users, so that would be a good indication of their quality.

Do you have a smart meter? If so, you can get access to your consumption history here https://myaccount.esbnetworks.ie/ and that will guide you as to the most suitable-sized system and battery. The rule of thumb, is to get as many panels as possible, as this is the cheapest time to get them. I would definitely get a battery too. This will allow you to make the best use of smart tariffs and grid/load shift.

For example, we're a house of 6 and pre-solar used 20-25kWh per day. I eventually installed ~7kWp of panels and a 20kWh battery - not all in one go however as it was only as I learned how best to use the system and manage load, I extended the system to take full advantage of both solar and the cheap smart EV tariffs.

We now import ~35kwh between 2am and 5am, fully charging the batteries, heating a tank of hot water and charging an EV. As the system is large, I export most of the production over the bright months, which builds credit to get through the winter. You can further boost this by force-discharging any surplus in the batteries before charging them, but that can get a little technical and not for everyone.

A hot water diverter isn't worth it as it's cheaper to heat with gas if you have it and export the excess solar. I did get one in the beginning, but soon switched it to a timed heater as it's slightly cheaper to heat water with our EV rate vs gas.
 
The average was probably closer to 20kWh, but definitely we tipped 25 a day a few times a month, an electric shower, 3 teens and a pre-teen playing 2, 3 or even 4 sports each, with all the associated washing/tumble drying and electric cooking, it was eye-watering!
 
Hello @Colin4444

First things first, get a couple of installers out to your house, to do a free inspection and a quote. Don't give in to a quick, hard sell, though.

You need to know approx. how many panels you'll get on your roof, as a starting point.

You can subsequently look into differnt manufacturers, and the efficiency of their panels etc.

The direction that each side of your roof faces will play an important part on how much power you can generate. South facing is ideal, West or East facing next, while North facing will produce very little.

The inverter that you select is also very important, as mentioned above, by @mugsymugsy - you've got to get a hybrid inverter, even if you don't go for a battery immediately, you may decide to do so, in the future.

There are differnt views on whether to get a battery, and also get water heated (usually by an "Eddie"), as part of your overall package.

The more people in your house, the more hot water that's needed. Personally, I think its an expensive extra that I didn't want, but then again, we've a small household.

When your household uses most of it's electricity, along with how much power you are likely to be able to generate, influence the battery decision. Typically, people who get batteries, generate more power during the day, then they need, so store the surplus power in their battery, and user it when the panels stop working for the evening/night.

Beware of companies offering discounts, if your let them advertise on your house, post installation. As a rule of thumb, they are expensive, even after the discount.

I'm not up to date on prices, but I still see regular comments from people saying that the big electricity and gas companies are expensive, compared to some independents.

Lots of quotes, from lots of installers, is the way to go... Just make sure that you are comparing like with like.

Also, check the likes of Trustpilot for reviews, in addition to asking the FB group for references.

Huawei are a well regarded brand, but be warned, their kit isn't compatible with most other manufacturers, so you'll be locked into Huawei for all future products, if you buy into them. They are also more expensive than many of the other well known manufacturers.

After getting a number of quotes, I ended up selecting Evolve ECO Solutions to instal my system. I was very happy with them, found them competitive on price etc. Lennon Solar also made my short list, along with a couple of others. I live on the north side of Dublin, btw.

There are grants available, as I'm sure you know. However, you need to ensure that you've got the ability to install enough panels, to qualify etc. You'll also need to get a BER rating. Visit the SEAI website, for info. and to ensure that any installer or engineer you are considering, are on the SEAI approved list, before you commit.

Finally, do not pay large deposits in advance. Done installers are trying to extract 50% deposits, we'll in advance of installation dates, which is crazy, and sees you take on the risk if something goes wrong (a few installers have gone bust, leaving people high and dry, for example). Also, when l paying a deposit, pay it by credit card if you can, as you'll get a level of protection, in the event of a problem.

Now, go set up that dummy FB account and join the group that I've previously suggested (via Clubmans post, above)... I promise, you'll be glad you did.
 
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@Millie* good point re if they will be around long enough for guarantee :) Thats why a more long standing provider like Bord Gais might be better.. at least they wont go bust with your deposit, and if something does go wrong further down the line you should be OK...

@ThatNewGuy I saw you mentioned re mysolar.ie and no connection

(https://www.askaboutmoney.com/threa...annual-consumption.228550/page-2#post-1787157)

What do you mean by 'no connection'?

Thanks everyone some great advice / information above..
I did try setting up a FB a/c last night, no joy, never got the sms to confirm the account, will try again. (I hate FB)
 
Some big companies outsource their work / contract it out. Honestly go on that Facebook group. Installers are on their and you quickly see who are the good ones and the rogue ones - the group is well administered like this forum. Also take the advice above by @MrEarl
 
@MrEarl We've a small household aswell, just me and my wife ?(and 3 cats). Still curious about the how water, does heating the water also heat the rads? If so it might be feasible?
 
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