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Public sector pay agreement and delays for retirees?
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@Protocol, I have been unsuccessful to locate any updates regarding the local bargaining on these two sectors, only that announced on the INTO/Forsa websites some time back.
Member Update on Local Bargaining Process - Irish National Teachers' Organisation
The Irish National Teachers’ Organisation (INTO) wishes to provide the following update in respect of our local bargaining process.
www.into.ie
Offer on pay claim shaped by members imminent
Following negotiations with DPER, Fórsa is awaiting a formal offer on the local bargaining claim for clerical officers and grade 3 equivalent roles shaped directly by members’ feedback and priorities.
forsatradeunion.newsweaver.com
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@CorhHomee2022, agreed, there is no specific date mentioned when this will be paid, in the same manner with pay increases, although the recent national pay increase is effective 1st February 2026, some sectors will be waiting much longer than others to have this applied.
CO, EO, HEO, AO, Service Officer:
This is the Local Bargaining offer received and accepted after ballot
INTO: latest I can find is here, discussions ongoing
AHCPS: deal done before Xmas. Number of higher allowances doubled from 1% to 2% for AP and PO
Many other grades are still awaiting conclusion.
This is the Local Bargaining offer received and accepted after ballot
Local bargaining update: formal offer received
The Department of Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Sector Reform and Digitalisation (DPER) has made a formal offer under the local bargaining process. This offer applies to clerical officers, executive officers, administrative officers, and higher executive officers working in the...
forsatradeunion.newsweaver.com
INTO: latest I can find is here, discussions ongoing
Solutions needed from new Minister - Irish National Teachers' Organisation
The INTO today met with Minister for Education and Youth Hildegarde Naughton and senior officials from her Department. The union forcefully set out the challenges facing primary and special education, expressing the deep frustration of those working across the sector following the Government’s...
www.into.ie
AHCPS: deal done before Xmas. Number of higher allowances doubled from 1% to 2% for AP and PO
Many other grades are still awaiting conclusion.
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Anybody notice the 1% due from Feb 1st has not been paid yet ? That's the second one not paid on time and why are the Public Sector Unions not kicking up about this ?
For retirees?
Retired folk don't pay union dues so not a priority for the unions!
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1% Feb pay agreement for staff should be Payed from
approximately 27th February, the local bargaining pay of 1.25% which has been agreed for CS staff, will take some time according to a staff member of NSSO, they are in talks with DPER, as a special project has to be set up in order that this is paid “ah stop”.
Saw this on Forsa website
There is now a retired members Association through Forsa which encourages continuation of membership and states it advocates for, timely pension payments focuses on protecting pension terms and conditions…etc first year free membership
approximately 27th February, the local bargaining pay of 1.25% which has been agreed for CS staff, will take some time according to a staff member of NSSO, they are in talks with DPER, as a special project has to be set up in order that this is paid “ah stop”.
Saw this on Forsa website
There is now a retired members Association through Forsa which encourages continuation of membership and states it advocates for, timely pension payments focuses on protecting pension terms and conditions…etc first year free membership
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Fionclaire
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Department of Education retiree here, 1% paid for pay period 27/01-09/02, paid on 12th February.
Retired member of Forsa union also, first year free, and thereafter 0.04% of annual pension, capped at €96 per annum.
Retired member of Forsa union also, first year free, and thereafter 0.04% of annual pension, capped at €96 per annum.
The TUI also have a Retired Members Union. https://www.rmatui.ie/ On the website its a 25 Euro a flat rate regardless of grade. The local branch pay for the first year. One of the perks was that you could speak at Branch meetings, I contacted the branch officers on my retirement with my new email address but alas, I have heard nothing. This could be a route to get matters resolved around the local barganing 1%. The motions are probably already in place for the Easter round of teacher union conferences.
just to update, I raised a query on the TUI Home Page contact button and the local secretary was in contact to say I would be invited to meetings.
just to update, I raised a query on the TUI Home Page contact button and the local secretary was in contact to say I would be invited to meetings.
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Not sure some unions really care about retirees though
Case and point with local bargaining and AHCPS
"As the Agreement does not include any changes to pay scales, it is understood that the application of the Local Bargaining Clause will not apply to pensioners who retired before 1 September 2025 from a grade represented by the AHCPS."
https://rcpsa.ie/dper-letter-of-09-02-2026-application-of-the-local-bargaining-clause-for-grades-represented-by-the-ahcps/
Case and point with local bargaining and AHCPS
"As the Agreement does not include any changes to pay scales, it is understood that the application of the Local Bargaining Clause will not apply to pensioners who retired before 1 September 2025 from a grade represented by the AHCPS."
https://rcpsa.ie/dper-letter-of-09-02-2026-application-of-the-local-bargaining-clause-for-grades-represented-by-the-ahcps/
re: Local Bargaining
I looked back at the previous public sector agreement, Building Momentum. The 1% local bargaining element was due to be paid in February 2022, but my group in the retired education sector did not receive it until February 2023. So if the current agreement's local bargaining follows the pattern I don't seriously expect to see anything until September 2026. Any earlier will be a bonus. Granted it will be backdated but its still annoying.
FAQs from Building Momentum attached.
I looked back at the previous public sector agreement, Building Momentum. The 1% local bargaining element was due to be paid in February 2022, but my group in the retired education sector did not receive it until February 2023. So if the current agreement's local bargaining follows the pattern I don't seriously expect to see anything until September 2026. Any earlier will be a bonus. Granted it will be backdated but its still annoying.
FAQs from Building Momentum attached.
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@seabreeze I was engaged with this issue pre retirement and had expected to get the extra percentage as you say was due back then. Should we be hopeful then that some retirees should be due it even if backdated? There certainly is a case for it.
The 1% local bargaining is different this time and not a flat 1% across the board. For some CS grades a skip of certain increment points was negotiated paid for by the 1% - this would not impact retirees in anyway. So don't necessarily expect anything at all!
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Yes I had understood that not across the board. My work was in one of the those categories however that local bargaining was agreed.