New Revenue flag ??????

They're displaying it for Pride month as they have done for years. Same as many other organisations/companies. You didn't notice it before?

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They're displaying it for Pride month as they have done for years. Same as many other organisations/companies. You didn't notice it before?

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In Revenue’s case, it highlights a simple message: We’ll nail everyone equally.
 
Oh my God, I feed threatened! I might turn queer! Woke madness! PC gone mad!


... of maybe it's a nice harmless gesture during pride month.
In fairness, most people have long gone past any feelings of insecurity or homophobia in relation to the original aspirations of the pride movement.

In Ireland, it has its roots in the protest against the acquittal of a group of young men for the killing of a gay man in fairview park back in the 80s. It was a different world back then and those who marched back then in support of gay rights were extremely brave trailblazers. They deserve our utmost respect.

But the cultural antagonism against gay people has been overcome. The battle has thankfully been won.

The current pride movement is a different animal entirely and I don’t think it’s homophobic (or transphobic) to critically evaluate its current reason for being or its objectives. It’s morphed into something else completely. While I wouldn’t consider myself a prude, I think the pride march for example borders on vulgarity. Having seen it, I certainly wouldn’t have wanted my children to have seen it.

I honestly can’t understand why it merits a full month to celebrate or why government departments feel it necessary to support as strongly as they do. By its own description, it is a political movement and should not be endorsed by the permanent government which is supposed to be apolitical.

There are other movements that in my opinion are as least as worthy of wider support. But for some reason, they don’t seem to attract the same government endorsement.
 
the cultural antagonism against gay people has been overcome. The battle has thankfully been won.

This is objectively untrue and does not correspond with the experiences of any gay people that I know.

While I wouldn’t consider myself a prude, I think the pride march for example borders on vulgarity. Having seen it, I certainly wouldn’t have wanted my children to have seen it.

I don't know what parade you attended but 99% of it is just people marching along in colourful outfits. You would see more skin on a day at the beach and more outrageous costumes among a hen party walking down O'Connell Street of an afternoon. If you go to Amsterdam Pride you would spontaneously combust - it is much more ostentatious and yet the audience is full of families.
 
But the cultural antagonism against gay people has been overcome. The battle has thankfully been won.
I'll tell my uncle that the next time he gets harassed, threatened or attacked for kisses his partner in public.
In Revenue’s case, it highlights a simple message: We’ll nail everyone equally.
That'ed be a homage to the bisexual bit of the flag so.

The current pride movement is a different animal entirely and I don’t think it’s homophobic (or transphobic) to critically evaluate its current reason for being or its objectives. It’s morphed into something else completely. While I wouldn’t consider myself a prude, I think the pride march for example borders on vulgarity. Having seen it, I certainly wouldn’t have wanted my children to have seen it.
I see your point. I suppose it's about normalising it all. I do question if the gay community is a community. I know quite a few gay people and their sexuality certainly isn't their defining characteristic.
 
the cultural antagonism against gay people has been overcome. The battle has thankfully been won.

I respectfully disagree. There is a difference is obtaining legal rights and having those rights wholly adopted by civil society.

I has taken thousands of years for recognition of rights of LGBTQ communities. While some congratulatory back-slapping should be allowed to recognise achievements of recent years, I would be wary of taking my eye of the ball and thinking nothing to see here anymore. There are still many parts of the worlds including some of our partner countries within the EU that have some way to progress.
 
There is a difference is obtaining legal rights and having those rights wholly adopted by civil society.
Well things have come a long way since the early days of the pride movement when gay people where feared, shunned and under threat to their safety.

While there are always the very ignorant who will never be turned, civil society in Ireland generally very well disposed to all issues of equality.
While some congratulatory back-slapping should be allowed to recognise achievements of recent years, I would be wary of taking my eye of the ball and thinking nothing to see here anymore.
Perhaps. But a month-long celebration? At this stage, there are other societal challenges that might more productively benefit from a month long focus.
 
. There is a difference is obtaining legal rights and having those rights wholly adopted by civil society.
The problem for a lot of people in society is the never ending extensions beyond L&G. People rightly have to abide by the laws in force but they don't have to accept it in their own minds. Unfortunately no one is allowed have a contrary view on this. And no rational discussion is allowed. Everyone should have rights respected, even those who disagree.
 
Perhaps. But a month-long celebration? At this stage, there are other societal challenges that might more productively benefit from a month long focus.

Well, fair enough, a month may be too much for some. Its no skin off my back, it can be a permanent thing all year round for as much as I care about that.
 
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