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For anyone new to this I believe Pauric's summation above is a very fair account of what each development has to offer.
I agree that BP is ahead of both HP and DM based on the house layouts but you pay more for these as a result. It would be interesting to look at each house on a price/sqm basis to see how much difference there is. The look of the HP houses puts me off a bit, from the outside they don't look nice at all. The mixture of colours is really poor. The nicest ones are the grey brick ones but the red brick and buff brick look really poor I think. Where on the other hand DM and BP both look much nicer from the outside.
I think DM is the nicest estate, it's drive in is much nicer than any of the others and has a huge green area out to the front. Both HP and BP will have apartments eventually which DM won't which probably makes DM the smallest estate also. HP is a huge estate and the traffic flow out of there will be a nightmare when it's fully completed given that there is a school also right beside it using the same roundabout for access. This was a huge negative for me when deciding between each of them.
Location wise is subjective really. BP is further away from shops and public transport but is in a much more exclusive area of Carpenterstown. If you get in at the front of HP then you will be closer to the public transport than DM, but much of HP will actually be further away than DM in that regard.
All in all I think any of them are really good, I would happily move into any of them to be honest.
I had posted this earlier but just for the benefit of the people that maybe new to this thread -
In fairness to the estate agents this does not necessarily mean that those exact numbers of each housing type will be built. It may prove more beneficial for the developer to revise existing planning down the line to react to what the market wants at that time. The latest submission I can see on fingal.ie, specifically FW14A/004, is dated April 2014 so as things stand this is whats planned but I'd imagine it's fluid.
This is true - one of the selling agents said to us recently that they had gone back into planning and changed some of the larger houses to semi d 4 beds. I thought she said 5 beds but maybe she just meant the large detached 4 beds. But yes, the planning is constantly changing.
This is true - one of the selling agents said to us recently that they had gone back into planning and changed some of the larger houses to semi d 4 beds. I thought she said 5 beds but maybe she just meant the large detached 4 beds. But yes, the planning is constantly changing.
There are only 5 Yeats houses in the current plans (all now sold) and from enquiring at the weekend there has been alot of interest in this house type so I wouldn't be surprised if more of these brought into future plans.
Phase 2 construction was under way when Phase 1 went on sale though and the phase 2 houses were already documented in the brochure. I'd expect more detached yeats properties in future developments. Anecdotally when I was at the show houses on Saturday I heard a number of people asking about the yeats houses and despite the 55k increase, the only available yeats sold off plans on the first day of sale.Like I said just passing on what the EA told us. If there was lots of interest in them in phase one I imagine they would have built more than 1 unit in phase two.
Current brochure only includes first phase of full developement plan which is 225 no. of units in total including appartments.Interesting reading the request for an amendment to the planning permission resubmitted on 29 Jan (FW16A/0011).
Wonder where the 450 residental units in total will fit in - the area boxed off in the current brochure surely can't be to scale if they refer to 450 houses, retail units and a creche?
It appears from the development plans that the apartments won't be directly opposite houses. One think which turned me off BP was the lack of a front garden and looking directly onto apartment blocks. The houses currently facing onto the green at HP and the cul de sacs etc give it a much much neighbour feel IMO than the feel of BP
Current brochure only includes first phase of full developement plan which is 225 no. of units in total including appartments.
The houses allocated to social housing in Phase1 of HP were spread through. When asked the EA told us which houses were allocated.Any word on the 10% allocation of social housing in either DM or HP? It would be far better to spread the houses through the different phases rather than just plant the houses together at the end of the development.
Interesting reading the request for an amendment to the planning permission resubmitted on 29 Jan (FW16A/0011).
Wonder where the 450 residental units in total will fit in - the area boxed off in the current brochure surely can't be to scale if they refer to 450 houses, retail units and a creche?
It appears from the development plans that the apartments won't be directly opposite houses. One think which turned me off BP was the lack of a front garden and looking directly onto apartment blocks. The houses currently facing onto the green at HP and the cul de sacs etc give it a much much neighbour feel IMO than the feel of BP
450 units related to HP only, it's around 438 now taking latest planning into consideration.Does the 450 units relate to both estates I wonder? They are both built on the same original site? Bit confusing as I agree looks difficult to fit them all in.
450 now comprising 16 detached houses, 93 semi-detached houses, 124 terraced houses, 25 duplex units and 192 apartments...
There is not a €50k premium for south facing - south facing swift in phase one sold for €450k.