Moneymakeover Married couple - debt and high expenses

Angeldelight, been following this thread for the past couple of days without commenting so as to reflect on your situation for a bit before jumping in.

Firstly, I must compliment you on both your courage and honesty on coming on here and laying it all bare as regards your overspending. Sometimes AAM can be a bruising and hard reality lesson, albeit with the best of intent from contributors. I truly hope you find some useful help in these pages and more importantly, then that you find and can maintain the resolve to follow through on the advice.

Anyway, in general, here's my take. Overall you are in quite an envious position as regards the level of your joint incomes and your ability to cover "essentials" such as the roof over your head and food.

After that, as so many others on here have pointed out, and mindful of your recent diagnosis and how much that may have played in getting you to this level of debt, you need to basically take an honest and strident look at what are the needs and wants in your life? To refer back to my own marketing days, I'm overtly conscious that in this hugely consumer, materialistic age, so many marketeers are constantly pitching material goods and services at you as needs, when the vast majority of them are wants.
Throw in the impact of influencing and peer pressure (and basically the compulsion to keep up with the neighbours) and you have a very strong series of urges to resist and if you are not strong-willed and independently minded enough to resist, many of them will sweep you in and sucker you into expenditure.

As well as the brilliantly suggested practice of carefully reviewing past expenditure and going forward with an honest and reflective household budget, I would also suggest a practice I started some twenty odd years ago of maintaining a wish list for all your planned purchases in the future. The rule is that no impulse purchases are allowed, if you want something it has to be on the list. Then prioritise everything on the list, with the obvious essentials (needs) at the top, working your way down by priority to the least wanted or needed items (the luxuries). Constantly review the list and for any new intended purchases or expenditure place them in the appropriate place of priority on the list before committing to a spend.
You should never purchace or expend on anything near the bottom of the list - if you need it or want it that bad it should be much further up the list, but then it gives you an opportunity and a pause for though to consider how it compares relative to other things on the list and that will aid you in deciding whether you really need it. Over time you will discover that things that you initially considered essentials or must haves are still near the bottom of the list and that you didn't really need them at all.

So be honest with yourself and your family and the best of luck. You'll get there, hopefully sooner than you think now that you've taken the first steps and come to a realisation of where you are and where you want (or need) to be.
 
priority is to pay down the most expensive loans first
Here's where I'd disagree & recommend following Dave Ramsey's snowball method.

And to be honest, I think this poster could do with following his "rice & beans" strategy.

You'll find plenty of stuff online on the "baby steps" principles. Some of it is mixed in with religious stuff, which I can do without; but other than that his advice is sound.

The OP needs to get real here, it's time for the spending to stop.

You can't pretend that moving money around will somehow make more of it, it won't.

Consider yourselves as a company; you allocate a budget for each area & thats the amount you have to spend, you don't go over it.
 
Here's where I'd disagree & recommend following Dave Ramsey's snowball method.

And to be honest, I think this poster could do with following his "rice & beans" strategy.

You'll find plenty of stuff online on the "baby steps" principles. Some of it is mixed in with religious stuff, which I can do without; but other than that his advice is sound.

The OP needs to get real here, it's time for the spending to stop.

You can't pretend that moving money around will somehow make more of it, it won't.

Consider yourselves as a company; you allocate a budget for each area & thats the amount you have to spend, you don't go over it.
So called guru stuff always seems unnecessarily complicated to me. I would stick with the simple prudent approach of paying down the most expensive debts first. That most likely means the CC balance unless it can be moved to another 0% offer for another few months.
 
unnecessarily complicated to me. I would stick with the simple prudent approach of paying down the most expensive debts first
Its actually quite simple & its the psychological boost of clearing the smallest debt that keeps people going.

Unless its proposed to spend 5 years paying consumer debt (and on this income thats totally unnecessary) the actual amounts of interest saved are small, if you start with highest interest first.

When weighed against the need to stick to a budget & not incur further debt, the benefit of the snowball method far outweighs any minor interest savings.
 
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its the psychologically boost of clearing the smallest debt that keeps people going.
The bank loan and CC balance are basically the same (€11K v €12K) so tackling the latter first still makes sense to me. Unless that can is kicked down the road for another while via another 0% balance transfer, in which case it may make sense to tackle the slightly lower bank loan balance first.
 
The interest on cc is pretty scary. In a box at the bottom of my last statement was a warning that if I made only the minimum payment each month I would not clear my existing balance until the 8/9/2040.

Actually makes me think that the minimum payment is too low
 
Yes re the credit card interest. If I were in the OP's position, I would use the money saved for the future (6k) to pay off the 12k cc debt and redirect the 280 child benefit to it also until it's gone.
When you've no credit card bill or debt you will build up your savings quickly enough, provided you make the changes suggested.

Over the past few months I have done the following -
- switched the mortgage and saved 30
- cancelled a 50/50 draw saving 5 a wk
- rang and changed my phone to Sim only - 25 a month saving
- claimed medical expenses
- claimed mileage for training days in work - too lazy to before

All adds up, my credit card is not longer linked to my phone and unsubscribed from all marketing emails. Unsaved my details from shopping sites too.
l think once you become more conscious of it all you will see ways to save. Best of luck to you!
 
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It is & its intended to be. The CC companies don't make any money off the folks who clear their debt every month.

They also make money from merchant fees (of the €100 you spent in the shop, the shop received somewhere between €95-€99.50) but I have no idea of the breakdown of their revenues.
 
Hi Op.
Is the car figure of €53 per week accurate?
It looks like it is for fuel and servicing only.
What about car purchase?
 
The interest on cc is pretty scary. In a box at the bottom of my last statement was a warning that if I made only the minimum payment each month I would not clear my existing balance until the 8/9/2040.

Actually makes me think that the minimum payment is too low
Some countries do not allow this to happen, they have rules that the CC has to be fully repaid within 12 months. This is to stop CC/Banks from deliberately putting people into positions of effectively paying interest for life.
 
Is the car figure of €53 per week accurate?
It looks like it is for fuel and servicing only.
What about car purchase?
Yes, covers fuel, tolls & other small costs like oil or car wash.

Annual service is paid for annually from bonus. We have the car for almost 9 years
 
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