Knock-on effect of Nurses pay claim

Discussion in 'Economic issues' started by Purple, 30 Jan 2019.

  1. RETIRED2017

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    pension contributions + 12% extra to the already retired would bring it away above 300 million ,
    When ye get a chance see how much the Garda pay rise costing away more than estimated the figures have being published in the last month of two,
     
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  2. Purple

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    Very true. Nobody's mentioned the cost of increasing all the pensions.
     
  3. noproblem

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    Yes, but sure the way the Goverment do things with money they probable just rounded up that few million downwards, if you can understand my line of thought:)
     
  4. Purple

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    So, taking the increase in pensions into account, the total cost of the nurses pay claim, after the expected contaigan across the State Sector, will be well north of a Billion Euro. In other words if we can resist this, and the INMO have the integrity to honour the wage agreement that they have already signed up to, we'll be able to build a new National Children's Hospital every 2 years.
     
  5. Aph2016

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    Fascinating reading through this thread. As someone said previously, looking through the payscale on the HSE website is a minefield of job types and grades and add in variables such as pension contributions, overtime, night shift, weekend rates and it's impossible to get the full picture. Who knows what to believe.
     
  6. Delboy

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    Now you know why that after spending €220m on the PPARS system, it had to be abandoned
     
  7. Purple

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    In a private company which had to make a profit, and that profit secured the jobs of the people who worked there, a proposal to simplify the contract/grades/payroll system in order to save tens of millions without costing the employees a cent would be accepted without a murmur. In the unionised HSE such changes will never happen because their jobs are safe no matter what and sure wasting money just kills people.
     
  8. Aph2016

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    So a registered nurse earns €29,346 and after a few weeks they move to €31,110. Monthly Net income of €2,185 not taking into account pension contributions and pension levy etc. Doesn't seem so bad to me. I've heard quite a few people say "ah they're only on €24,000 a year" but in reality that's only for a matter of weeks.

    Sure now the teachers want an increase...
     
  9. Purple

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    When allowances etc are taken into account it is significantly higher than that.
    As a friend put it when the Gardai were on strike, "Don't tell me what you earn, show me your P60".
     
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  10. NoRegretsCoyote

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    There is very little point for the multiplicity of pay scales in the public service - HSE is a particularly bad example.

    The unions love complexity and actively encourage it, in the same way that tax consultants love loopholes.

    It means that staff in many cases the staff can't even understand their own entitlements, hence the need for unions to help them out.
     
  11. Leo

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    The hospitals that have merged over the years are a great example of this, with staff still on contract T&Cs from their original hospital and any streamlining vigorously resisted unless it comes with a pot of money.
     
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  12. Firefly

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    Very good!!!