Is leaving corporate employment at 50 financially feasible

Two kids at college a yr apart for, say, 4 yrs each and lets assume renting.
For just college and accommodation, absolutely nothing else about 9k/10ka year per student. On top of this, you would have food, course material, clothing, phone, insurance, socialising, transport, medical costs (like before university). Some could be covered with a summer job.
 
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Yes college fees and associated costs is a factor assuming two kids go to college but they may not if he has a say in the matter

Given projected cash buffer and (projected) wife still happilly working + ability to tap pension including lump sum, if need be - wouldnt they be fine
Even If it was a question for today we'd probably have different answers as to whether the friend has enough or not to leave their job
But to answer that same question today for 8 years time would only be guessing as there are to many variables

Your friend rather than asking will it be enough in 8 years time should be concentrating on clearing debt, maximising wealth
And tracking expenditure so as to gain a proper insight into what the yearly expenditure would likely be after he leaves work
Then when he's closer to the date of leaving he can run the numbers and see if it's a goer
 
He figures he will need 40k per annum.

He has a manageable mortgage due to be cleared within the 8 years.

Its a math question really. Of course theres many variables and what ifs but for the purpose of the question being posed its maths.

Given current assets + ongoing forecast contribs + forecast modest growth - projected annual drawdown -> is it feasible to leave his job at 50.

Its clear now that the answer to the riddle is yes. Unless Im missing somik.
 
forecasts a pension pot of around €1m by age 50

For the €40k net, he will need to draw out approx €50k before tax p.a., so definitely on the 5% end of the withdrawal. With a bit of finessing around the €200k tfls, this can maybe be considered a bit of headroom, but still you're taking about being on the upper end of the commonly accepted safe withdrawal rate, and with an early start too. It's do-able, but a part time job or other mitigating factor would be handy.
 
Drawing 5% from the starting portfolio, and thereafter adjusting that euro amount for inflation every year, is pretty aggressive for a 50 year old, with a relatively high probability of exhausting the portfolio before your friend runs out of life.

I thought you were talking about initially drawing €40k from a starting portfolio of €1.2m?
 
Some good points made here, definitely food for thought. Perhaps my friend's plan isn't quite as comfortable as he originally thought

Just to clarify a few things, €40k is his anticipated annual expenditure, but the intention would be to draw approximately €50k net annually to provide some headroom for tax and unexpected costs. The plan would be to leave work at 50 with a pension fund of around €1m, hopefully growing to approximately €1.2m by age 52, assuming investment performance is reasonably favourable. He would have savings available to help bridge the initial two years.

The key consideration is that the pension would remain invested in equities, so he's not assuming the fund simply depletes by the amount withdrawn each year. Over a long period, investment returns should hopefully offset a meaningful proportion of the drawdowns, although he appreciates that returns are unlikely to be smooth and that the order in which they occur matters.

The tax-free lump sum and remaining savings would also provide a buffer in poor market conditions, potentially allowing him to reduce pension withdrawals or avoid selling investments after a significant fall. He'd also have the option of undertaking some part-time work if necessary, which would reduce the pressure on the portfolio. The €50k net target is therefore an objective rather than an inflexible commitment regardless of market conditions.

I suppose the real question is whether, with a reasonable degree of flexibility, this is a viable strategy or whether he's underestimating the risk of retiring at 50 with a relatively long period to fund before other sources of income become available. I'm conscious that a 4–5% initial withdrawal rate is a very different proposition when you're potentially funding 40 years or more, particularly if withdrawals need to increase with inflation.

Appreciate the challenge — it's exactly the sort of feedback he's looking for before making any decisions.
 
If he retires at 50 and hits the sequence of returns risk of equities going south early, he could always re-enter employment between 60 and 65.
 
He would also have the option of taking a tax-free lump sum from his pension, subject to the applicable rules.
If his pension is a PRSA or could be moved to one then the option of splitting it into smaller contracts allowing a phased access to TFLSs and regular income could be useful. This avoids access to TFLS and regular income from an ARF or vested PRSA being a one time only/all or nothing event.

In a case like this I would also be inclined to ask an AI/LLM for feedback but only with carefully crafted prompts and skeptical interrogation/challenging and sanity checking of any feedback received. I did this for my own early retirement and overall financial situation a few times and found it useful. But I wouldn't take anything from an AI/LLM as gospel and would always challenge and sanity check it.
 
With the revised figures, this plan is way too aggressive/risky.

He should be targeting an overall portfolio equivalent to 30X projected annual expenses before even considering retiring at 50.
 
He should be targeting an overall portfolio equivalent to 30X projected annual expenses before even considering retiring at 50
40k x 30 is 1.2m which he should arrive at by age 52 when he starts to tap pension. His savings of 200k would be more than enough as a 2 year bridge. I might be missing something but how is that risky or aggressive esp with a conservative growth raised being used.
 
Presumably I'm missing something obvious here, but let's say he gets to 50 with a pot of 600k. With a return of 6%, he could withdraw 40k per year for the next 15 years and be left with an approximate pot of 550k. At this point he could then supplement it with the state pension.
 
Presumably I'm missing something obvious here, but let's say he gets to 50 with a pot of 600k. With a return of 6%, he could withdraw 40k per year for the next 15 years and be left with an approximate pot of 550k. At this point he could then supplement it with the state pension.
Yes, thats just simple maths. But it'd be more like 18-20 yrs (who knows) rather than 15 yrs to state pension.
 
I thought you said he would have €1.2m at 50? €1m in pension and €200k in after-tax cash savings.

But your friend’s projected drawdown appears to have increased by 25%, from €40k to €50k.

Is it realistic to retire at 50 with €1.2m, with projected annual expenses of €50k? Not in my opinion.
 
At this point he could then supplement it with the state pension.
Will he have sufficient reckonable PRSI contributions/credits for a full contributory pension at age 66+, or a plan to accumulate these in the meantime?

 
Will he have sufficient reckonable PRSI contributions/credits for a full contributory pension at age 66+, or a plan to accumulate these in the meantime?

If he draws an arf from 52 doesnt a certain prsi class apply that ensures continued contributions?
 
Drawing from ARF, with minimum drawdown of 5k per year, will pay full year Class S PRSI contributions which will count towards final Social Welfare pension. These contributions can be from age 50 to OAP age. Alternatively, get a part-time job..
The proposed gap of 2 years between 50 and 52 may not make much difference and you could pay "voluntary contributions".
BUT rules can change before Social Welfare pension drawdown which will be closer to 68 or 70... Definitely though, if drawdown is proposed to be 40k in the near future, then the Social Welfare pension would be a significant increase on that.
How will any future government change the rules in next 20 years?? It's a risk to be considered.... I am past that point of no return but if I was with those figures and under 50, I'd consider working a bit longer.
From experience, early retirement at a young age usually means increased spending. IMO, 40k gross per year is not a lot of money....
 
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