We can ignore the problem until Saoirse or Cian has no teacher for their honours maths class in Dublin and risks not getting the points they need for medicine. Then there will be uproar!Exactly, that's the whole point. teachers only make up a small number of such jobs, and they are better paid than many of them.
Over 20 years working in HSE recruitment, the idea of a "allowance" has been floated since then. But nurses are not the only grade working in hospital. When I tell someibe I work in X hospital l, I immediately follow it with a, no I'm not a nurse.All workers in London get a London Allowance. It is graded depending on how near you work to the city centre. It has worked well there for decades. Really think we need to consider something similar here for Dublin.
But everyone in administration in a hospital is lazy and part of the problem and all nurses are selfless hardworking heroes. Did you not get the memo?Over 20 years working in HSE recruitment, the idea of a "allowance" has been floated since then. But nurses are not the only grade working in hospital. When I tell someibe I work in X hospital l, I immediately follow it with a, no I'm not a nurse.
We have low paid admin, medical scientists, HCAs etc. The salary improves after 4 or 5 years.
Oh why waste your time when you can just continue to base your argument on false assumptions and cast doubts on a report you haven't read!!I haven't read the report. Have you a link? If I get very bored some evening I might.
I don't think anyone has suggested we ignore the problem, but few would agree that teachers are more deserving or more in need of supports than other lower paid sectors of the workforce.We can ignore the problem until Saoirse or Cian has no teacher for their honours maths class in Dublin and risks not getting the points they need for medicine. Then there will be uproar!
At no point did I suggest that either...but most sensible people would recognise that a continued shortage of teachers will cause significant disruption if it isn't addressed.I don't think anyone has suggested we ignore the problem, but few would agree that teachers are more deserving or more in need of supports than other lower paid sectors of the workforce.
Because we cannot assume any single report is an accurate reflection or comparison.Oh why waste your time when you can just continue to base your argument on false assumptions and cast doubts on a report you haven't read!!
A solution would be to give subsidised housing to construction workers since it is the shortage of skilled labour in that area which is the main constraint on housing supply. If we addressed that issue then housing would become cheaper and nurses and teachers and the other front line heroes would be able to afford housing.At no point did I suggest that either...but most sensible people would recognise that a continued shortage of teachers will cause significant disruption if it isn't addressed.
Yet without reading it you dismissed it and sought to cast doubts over Davy as a whole based on the actions of a few.Because we cannot assume any single report is an accurate reflection or comparison.
A solution would be to give subsidised housing to construction workers since it is the shortage of skilled labour in that area which is the main constraint on housing supply. If we addressed that issue then housing would become cheaper and nurses and teachers and the other front line heroes would be able to afford housing.
Agree we need to move on and accept that there is a whole cohort of workers that are unable to afford to rent affordable or buy in Dublin. Trying to assert that it isn't an issue for some public sector workers because they are paid more than their private sector counterparts is a pointless argument. It is an issue and urban areas need these essential services.Yet without reading it you dismissed it and sought to cast doubts over Davy as a whole based on the actions of a few.
The CSO and other reports continue to confirm that public servants including teachers on the lower rungs of the grade structures are better paid than those in the private sector. Unless you can point to evidence to the contrary, let's move on.
Yep, so it's disingenuous of Union leaders in the public sector to poor-mouth about relatively well paid employees while ignoring those who are on low pay. It's also deeply disingenuous to assert that they are more essential or important that people who do other jobs and, given the tragic events in Lebanon this week, describing them as working on the front line is in extremely bad taste.Agree we need to move on and accept that there is a whole cohort of workers that are unable to afford to rent affordable or buy in Dublin. Trying to assert that it isn't an issue for some public sector workers because they are paid more than their private sector counterparts is a pointless argument. It is an issue and urban areas need these essential services.
The London weighting applies to the location of the job not the circumstances of the employee. There is no guarantee it would work in Dublin or other cities but it could be worth investigating.The state already makes an allowance towards rental costs in Dublin compared to elsewhere eg you can avail of Hap in Dublin as a single person if you net income is 35k or less in Carlow the limit is 30k net. Both to increase by 5k in new year.
There is rental support there already.
Would a Dublin allowance apply to renters only or homeowners too?
Would a homeowner mortgage free who was classed as an essential worker qualify?
Would giving an allowance not just push up rents?