House Insurance - large increase

Because the market value has nothing to do with the rebuilding cost. And a 4 year old market value even less.
Both Leo and I know that, that wasn't what the point was. It was that nowadays building costs are so high that it's cheaper to buy then to build. We were not suggesting people use Market Value for the rebuilding amount.

It's a very odd situation to be that in Ireland some second hand houses are cheaper to buy than build.
 
Comparing today's estimated rebuilding cost with the market value 4 years ago is comparing apples with oranges.
True enough that without an indicator of house price changes over that time it requires a bit of guesswork.

Prices in the area for large detached homes seems to have increased by ~40% while Google tells me the SCSI rebuild costs have increased by ~50% in that time. So it's still considerably more expensive to rebuild than to purchase in this area.
 
They can claim that you left the alarm off
My biggest fear when renting out a room, have to drill it into their heads to turn on the alarm if they leave the house for even 5 minutes, we have Action24 monitored alarm so can activate it remotely. The minute somebody leaves the house I have to check to see if they have armed it.
So yeah, sometimes you wish you were not claiming the discount for it.
 
So yeah, sometimes you wish you were not claiming the discount for it.

I was actually advised by a few friends working at insurance some years back that it was best not to claim the discount because of this aspect of it.

As if it wasn't bad enough for my friend to have her claim turned down but she also had to pay the €100 for the report on the alarm to be completed :(
 
So yeah, sometimes you wish you were not claiming the discount for it.
I discovered this clause about 20 odd years ago and discussed it with my broker at the time and even he was unaware that anytime you leave the house the alarm must be set but not only that, the alarm has to meet the current standards and be maintained as per the manufacture's guidelines

Just the yearly maintenance visit cost for me outweighed the discount from an insurance company which is somewhere between 10% and 15%
So last years premium from Aviva was €417 so the discount would be between €50 and €100 depending on where they apply the discount

I have an alarm on the house and have cameras covering all sides so I'm happy enough with the security
The only downside is without an "approved alarm" they can put a cap on the contents insurance, which is €90k from Aviva
so we need to try and get that down a bit
Have you tried getting a new online quote from your provider, in the past just by doing that has has knocked off at least 10% off the initial renewal offer for me
 
meet the current standards and be maintained as per the manufacture's guidelines
I would hope having the monitored alarm with action24 would tick the boxes but a question to ask them for sure, actually getting new upgraded system next week, it was cheaper to get their new system than pay an engineer to come out and recalibrate the sensors after our windows upgrade!

We have Eufy cameras out the back, front and side entrance all hard wired as well. Can't do anymore than that.
 
So it's still considerably more expensive to rebuild than to purchase in this area
With that in mind is it safe to use the SCSI guidelines as a realistic way calculating building cost??

I notice that they say this is for minimum base cost but in the next paragraph they also mention minimum BER ratings,
So my house which is a 1960's 3 bed semi detached dormer bungalow that hasn't been touched in 20+ years would be brought up to a BER rating of A2 if it had to be rebuilt

According to the SCSI the rebuild cost of my house is €475k so Ill insure for €500k
If the rebuild cost in the next year comes in at more then that, will I be deemed to have underinsured??
 
With that in mind is it safe to use the SCSI guidelines as a realistic way calculating building cost??
I think they're a good starting point, but if it comes to a claim, the insurer will send an assessor who will report back an estimate of rebuild cost at that time along with the cost for the scope of works covered by the claim.

I'm of the same opinion that at least they can't claim those numbers are way off the mark, but as you, I add a little to cover the particulars of my situation.
 
Got my renewal notice from Axa, it was €476 last year, up €46 now to €522 so we need to try and get that down a bit. Not the worst increase.
Just renewed with Axa as a new customer, €375 for the year. I have increased my building sum assured by €35k (over insured by €24 as per the SCSI website. I have also increased the contents by 10K but removed the specific cover for my ring as technically it should fall under the unspecified valuables of €2k cover.

I will do some more reading on that and if I need to change it I will. I had a quick read of the document and can't see any reference to the alarm issue but need to give it some more time. Either way it will be set 24/7 just to be sure.
 
I think they're a good starting point, but if it comes to a claim, the insurer will send an assessor who will report back an estimate of rebuild cost at that time along with the cost for the scope of works covered by the claim.

I'm of the same opinion that at least they can't claim those numbers are way off the mark, but as you, I add a little to cover the particulars of my situation.
So in the case of home insurance does it make more sense to go with the bank valuation report rather than what the SCSI calculator throws out?
 
So in the case of home insurance does it make more sense to go with the bank valuation report rather than what the SCSI calculator throws out?
The bank valuation will only apply to the time at which it's done for mortgage drawdown purposes and won't be accurate thereafter. I've always used the SCSI calculator and added a bit of margin. But my house is a fairly standard/compact mid-terrace townhouse so the calculator is likely to be in the ballpark. A one of custom build or otherwise usual property might be a different matter.
 
Thanks. I should have mentioned that I'm at the drawdown stage so I'm looking at it from that perspective.
 
At the time of purchase, it's understandable that value will be top of mind, but you need to remember the value of the property is irrelevant here. The rebuild cost is just that, how much would it cost to fully rebuild the full house, any outbuildings, paths, walls, etc, and reinstate all fixtures and fittings.
 
Thanks. I should have mentioned that I'm at the drawdown stage so I'm looking at it from that perspective.
At the time of purchase, it's understandable that value will be top of mind, but you need to remember the value of the property is irrelevant here
Yes, I forgot that the lender's valuation is a market valuation and not a rebuilding cost valuation so is not relevant/suitable for the purposes of assessing the level of property insurance needed.
 
The valuation report has both market value and reinstatement cost for insurance.
 
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