As the neighbour who brought the washing machine yesterday sagely said, they are all thinking of themselves not about the country. How could a minority give even start to work IN IRELAND? Just read the Breaking News item re Michael Martins ideas on this. Makes no sense. As for protests? Are you serious? They achieve nothing. Ireland i the laughing stock of the world at present. I suspect another election would see FG grow as at least they are being more constructive. NB while we have a small homeless problem eg Canada has over 3 million sleeping rough which is the international definition of homeless. Here that term is wrongly used to mean in emergency accommodation.I agree, but the committed voters for each of those parties, which would make up (say) 80% of the votes they got recently, would find reason to blame the other parties for the mess we're in. We get the politicians we vote for!
That's exactly what most of the electorate did; we get the politicians we deserve.As the neighbour who brought the washing machine yesterday sagely said, they are all thinking of themselves not about the country.
In defence of the politicians - FF and FG made it clear before the election that they would not go into coalition with each other...
Is that true though? We have had major changed to our taxation system over the last few years and evidence to show that while gross income distribution in Ireland is very uneven our net income distribution, i.e. after tax, is very even. In other words we tax the hell out of high earners.Trouble is they forgot about who put them there and the rich got richer and the rest got poorer.
So you want large public sector pay increased in a country which is still borrowing billions to pay for public services. How would you propose paying for those increases?I must admit I hope that this hiatus continues for another while.
With disaffection rising in the ranks of the gardai , the nurses , teachers & the public sector in general allied to the private sector disputes in Tesco & the Luas system ( any solution to the Luas strike will I would imagine set a substantial bar for all sectors ) I hope that any incoming Government will be a extremely nervous minority one thus placing greater pressure on them to resolve this disaffection.
It is interesting to note IBEC calling " for social dialogue on the elements that affect pay " echoing the Indo , Times & most relevantly Kieran Mulvey's calls for similar dialogue between employers , Government & Unions , SIPTU however feel that there may be more traction for members in a " free for all " scenario
So you want large public sector pay increased in a country which is still borrowing billions to pay for public services. How would you propose paying for those increases?
I'm sure Purple can fight his/her own battles but my first thought when reading this was: where does that money come from? Ireland borrowed heavily to continue paying for these services - more than it did to bail out the banks.The government could start by repaying the money virtually stolen from the Public Service to bail Ireland out.
So that's what happened then!! Our country was bailed out by money "virtually stolen" from the public service. Those of us in the private sector who suffered pay losses/redundancies/reduced hours should now cough up more tax to restore the salary levels of the PS!!The government could start by repaying the money virtually stolen from the Public Service to bail Ireland out.
And if they don't like it they can resign and go look for a job elsewhere. Except very very few of our CS/PS ever do that.There appears to be some belief in these parts that the Public Service had it soft since the beginning of the recession. OK some of the private sector suffered; well at least we read about some of it here. Every member of the Public Service suffered. Do people here really believe that in the Public Service there were no pay losses, increased working week, reduction of holiday entitlements, suppression of posts, cut-backs on recruitment, pension levies (in my case a levy which will be less than my pension entitlement), drastic reductions in overtime, reductions in sick leave entitlements etc, etc?
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