ESB Networks €50 refund due to overcharging

Whoops, forgive me for been so "altruistic" just thought it would be better going to some worthy cause
I know €50 is €50 but is it really going to be missed or make a real difference to a persons life in the long term

Well maybe. If you are one of the many people who can't afford to take their sick kid (or themselves) to a doctor right now as the alternative is to miss another medical bill, add to the piled up unpaid utility bills, or put food on the table, then quite possibly.

I think some folk on AAM can be insulated from the harsh reality for some people at the minute
 
A €50 refund for 11 years of "overcharging", that's €4.54 a year or approximately €0.75 cent a bill
I know it's not the point, we shouldn't be overcharged, but why bother refunding us ??
I'd much rather see the money donated to the state to help sort out in some other area that could do with a bit of extra funding
You couldn't trust them to spend it on something genuine - half of it would be gobbled up by a third party contractor, on fees, who would later turn out to be the best mate or cousin of a Minister etc. :(
 
I thought the same at first, but it didn't look right.

Re-did the calculation and it's €500 per household!
I'll stick with my first answer which is the same as the ESB's alleged answer. I mean they've installed smart meters and stuff now so they can never be wrong again, right?
 
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Well maybe. If you are one of the many people who can't afford to take their sick kid (or themselves) to a doctor right now as the alternative is to miss another medical bill, add to the piled up unpaid utility bills, or put food on the table, then quite possibly.
And maybe just maybe the €600m to €800m could be used to accelerate the free doctors visits that the "slaintecare" is supposed to provide so as a person who is genuinely struggling financially doesn't have to worry about their or their kids doctors appointments

I think some folk on AAM can be insulated from the harsh reality for some people at the minute
Yes I am "insulated" from the harsh reality that some people are going through at the moment but I can assure you that I've as I'm sure a lot of people here have struggled just as much in the past as people are suffering today but at least I was able to make through the bad times and come out the other side and I make no apology for that!!!

Anyhow I see my "brain fart" isn't gaining traction here in this thread so this honourable member will remove himself from this thread:oops:
 
I've been getting an estimated reading from Bord Gais for the last 4 years. I checked the meter and at today's rate they owe me €7,000.
I've mailed them with a photo of the meter and a copy of yesterday's Irish Times in the shot. I'm awaiting their reply.

It does show how lazy and disorganised I am. And that the kids might have a point about how cold the house is all the time :).
 
Is your meter indoors or outdoors?
My mother's was indoors and, naturally, the reading was often estimated.
 
Feel free to be altruistic with your own money.
I would like to like your post twice
Okay here's one for the pair of youse ;)
I just found out yesterday that a high court case that I was involved in has gone my way
There also was a small amount of compensation included €2k
I had originally decided a year ago to give it to some Ukraine charity but now I feel they might be well funded compared to others
I was then thinking of giving the lot to "Hoja Nueva" to help with their work in the Amazon forest
But Mrs C said why not spread it around a little, say €500 to four good causes

So I'd like you guys to pick a charity or a cause that you feel needs a little help and I'll donate
and if possible something a little left of centre and not so mainstream :)
 
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So I'd like you guys to pick a charity or a cause that you feel needs a little help and I'll donate
and if possible something a little left of centre and not so mainstream :)
Can I suggest the Jack & Jill Foundation which funds the supply of specialist care nurses to families with children with complex care needs to give the families a break from what is often a 24-hr-a-day job? My family and I have fund-raised for them over the years. Every €16 raised pays for one hour of home-care nursing.

Thank you for your generosity of thought whatever organizations/individuals get your cash.
 
Okay here's one for the pair of youse ;)
I just found out yesterday that a high court case that I was involved in has gone my way
There also was a small amount of compensation included €2k
I had originally decided a year ago to give it to some Ukraine charity but now I feel they might be well funded compared to others
I was then thinking of giving the lot to "Hoja Nueva" to help with their work in the Amazon forest
But Mrs C said why not spread it around a little, say €500 to four good causes

So I'd like you guys to pick a charity or a cause that you feel needs a little help and I'll donate
and if possible something a little left of centre and not so mainstream :)
I think that deserves its own thread, unless you want to donate to ESB Networks L:)
 
The scheme itself seems highly questionable to me, even aside from the overcharging.

Increasing charges on ordinary users to subsidise large commercial users. And that was sanctioned by the authorities.
It was done in 2010 when there was 15% unemployment and a real fear that some of the directly managed companies might leave, creating a scenario not unlike the one in Limerick when Dell closed and the knock on impact of that closure caused so many other jobs to be lost that the final tally was nearly 10,000 jobs.
 
True and my crude sums would indicate that €600M / 1.2M* = c. €50 per household plus the interest on the capital sum accrued over 11 years, compounded.

@Harvard, unless you had active ESB accounts in parallel over the years, the one crispy €50 is all you'll get, if the speculation is correct.

Mind you, the compound interest on €600M @ 1% over 11 years is close to €70M (69.7M). I'd have no objection to the interest being used for good elsewhere.

[EDIT] *The number of household accounts ESB steals from deals with
ESB do not manage these companies, its EirGrid who manage them directly.
 
It was done in 2010 when there was 15% unemployment and a real fear that some of the directly managed companies might leave, creating a scenario not unlike the one in Limerick when Dell closed and the knock on impact of that closure caused so many other jobs to be lost that the final tally was nearly 10,000 jobs.
Should it not have been a government subvention though funded by central taxation? I don't agree with the way it applied to small consumer bills across the board.
 
Should it not have been a government subvention though funded by central taxation? I don't agree with the way it applied to small consumer bills across the board.
CRU make these decisions on their own bat and don't defer back to central government to cross subsidise, just like decisions on things like standing charges are made by them alone.
 
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