Would you buy an EV with an out of warranty battery?sorry what car is worthless when its battery is out of warranty?
It's a pretty competitive market right now, and with talk of government supports on purchasing having to reduced in the coming years, the manufacturers will be forced to drop prices to stimulate sales.i wouldnt assume a lower price to manufacture will be a lower price to sell. also new tech is expensive at the start, what you are talking about is probably a decade away before its 'cheap' and at that point there will be something else!
€5k, [broken link removed]....somewhere in that rangeWould you buy an EV with an out of warranty battery?
You'll spend over €5000 to replace the battery in a Nissan Leaf and it'll be the same old style battery that was fitted when it was built.
All that will happen is that grants will go and prices will decrease, an ID3 equivalent in 10 years time will probably cost a similar amount to what it costs now.It's a pretty competitive market right now, and with talk of government supports on purchasing having to reduced in the coming years, the manufacturers will be forced to drop prices to stimulate sales.
VW are also stating the new battery designs will be 50% cheaper to produce from the start.
personally an old nissan leaf isnt a car that i would be that interested in buying, but if it was there are plenty of diagnostics out there that enable you to check the health of the battery.Would you buy an EV with an out of warranty battery?
You'll spend over €5000 to replace the battery in a Nissan Leaf and it'll be the same old style battery that was fitted when it was built.
I did say over €5k... wow, thirty grand!€5k, [broken link removed]....somewhere in that range
Yes, yes it is.Is it any bigger of a risk than buying an ICE car of a similar age with no warranty where the timing belt could go making it uneconomical to repair the engine?
why?Yes, yes it is.
So which is it, new tech is more expensive & manufacturers won't pass on savings or costs will come down?All that will happen is that grants will go and prices will decrease, an ID3 equivalent in 10 years time will probably cost a similar amount to what it costs now.
i dont know yet, what im pretty sure is that the cost to the end consumer will stay similar on a like for like car.So which is it, new tech is more expensive & manufacturers won't pass on savings or costs will come down?
That's not sustainable when EVs currently cary a significant premium above ICE equivalents. If costs don't come down no government will survive banning ICE.i dont know yet, what im pretty sure is that the cost to the end consumer will stay similar on a like for like car.
which EV are you comparing to its ICE equivalent that carrys a significant premium (in net cost to the end customer)That's not sustainable when EVs currently cary a significant premium above ICE equivalents. If costs don't come down no government will survive banning ICE.
VW Golf from €29k, plug-in from €48k. Polo from €19k, ID.3 from €37k.which EV are you comparing to its ICE equivalent that carrys a significant premium (in net cost to the end customer)
Because you can have your timing belt changed for a relatively low cost.why?
sure, but not after it has snapped.Because you can have your timing belt changed for a relatively low cost.
Yea, and the head gasket can blow and the whole thing can burst into flames but on the balance of probability it'll be grand. The cost of replacing a battery is a definite cost and in many cases it's more than the car is worth. Therefore the car is worthless when the battery is out of warranty.sure, but not after it has snapped.
Why are you comparing a polo to an ID3?VW Golf from €29k, plug-in from €48k. Polo from €19k, ID.3 from €37k.
Toyota Yaris from €19k, hybrid from €23.
Renault Clio from €18k, Zoe (built on the same platform) from €28k
you seem very sure about all of this,Yea, and the head gasket can blow and the whole thing can burst into flames but on the balance of probability it'll be grand. The cost of replacing a battery is a definite cost and in many cases it's more than the car is worth. Therefore the car is worthless when the battery is out of warranty.
Yea, and the head gasket can blow and the whole thing can burst into flames but on the balance of probability it'll be grand. The cost of replacing a battery is a definite cost and in many cases it's more than the car is worth. Therefore the car is worthless when the battery is out of warrant
The LEAF is at the extreme end of the cost but Leo's link shows people being charged €30,000 for a replacement.Hi Purple
Can we put figures on this please?
Say the battery on a LEAP needs to be replaced. How much will a new battery cost and what spec will it be - i.e. is it a case that a battery of X years gets replaced by a new, much higher spec battery? The follow-up point being that you'd end up with a car with a decent battery for the cost of the battery so I'm struggling to see how the "car" is worthless. [Genuinely, I am not doubting your expertise - I'm just trying to understand!]
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